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Dec042014

Roundup: Don't Let Tiger's Chunked-Wedge Strewn 77 Ruin Memories Of Tuesday's Magnificent Press Conference

Okay, so he still a ways to go recovering the short game he mysteriously changed to match the Foley swing years and he was the worst player by a lot in round one of the Hero World Challenge, but at least Tiger has (A) his back intact, and (B) his upbeat press conference from Tuesday where he weaved through rallykillers and stuck the landing. 

As for a 77 that was four strokes worse than anyone else in the field, Dave Shedloski says the lone positive came in the form of new re-injury. Maybe. There was the explosiveness too.

Oh, sure, there was more. “Shot patterns were fantastic. And as I think all of you saw, I got my power back and I got my speed back. It’s nice to be able to start launching it again. That’s a very good sign.”

That said, his new-old swing didn’t do him many favors on his former home course, and his short game came up, well, considerably short of the standards of your average 20-handicapper, let alone the No. 24 player in the world.

“It’s weird,” said Woods, who mis-hit four chips and a bunker shot. “I didn’t think I hit it that bad. My short game was awful. It was just one of those days where really nothing went my way.”

The explosive chunk wedges were "shocking" (Steve DiMeglio in USA Today) and according to Doug Ferguson of the AP:

It was the 10th time in 12 rounds that he failed to break par since his first return in June.
Even so, some of the shots were shocking, especially around the green.

On the par-5 17th, he hit his second shot just left of the green, pin-high in a deep collection area. Woods no sooner hit his chip that he angrily swung back-handed toward his divot, knowing what was coming next. The ball didn’t come close to reaching the green, and Woods turned his back as the ball rolled back toward his feet.

Jason Sobel of GolfChannel.com noted that the ball striking wasn't so bad.

All told, he left five greenside wedge shots short of the actual greens, chunking four of them and leaving a bunker shot in the sand. If his ball-striking – which included 8-of-14 fairways and 11-of-18 greens in regulation – was a newfound bright spot during this latest comeback attempt, his short game was a dark crater of unfulfilled intentions.

Cameron Morfit of golf.com wondered about the chunks this way and called the start to Tiger 4.0 "inauspicious."

By this time people were starting to talk. Did he have vertigo? Had an optometrist botched his prescription? Watching Woods mangle all these chip shots was like watching Bobby Flay burn all the grilled cheese sandwiches.

After blistering a drive down the fairway at the par-5 17th, and getting up around the green with his second shot, Woods chunked his fourth chip of the day, this time recovering to save par. “It certainly is surprising that I could hit chip shots that poorly,” he said afterward. “I just flubbed ’em.”

Most disturbing of all the observations came from Jason Day, who saw none of the chunked shots in Monday's practice round, as reported by Golfweek's Adam Schupak.

“Monday, he was chipping fine. It was on point,” Day said. “It was surprising today to see him stub a lot of chip shots. Uphill and into the grain is very difficult, but to see that many out of Tiger Woods is very surprising.”

Robert Lusetich was the least forgiving after hearing Day's remarks, noting that Tiger "used to be able to score better than anyone who ever played this game" and "now Woods turns 72s into 77."

Why? He can't chip and he can't putt.

Chips into the grain are virtually guaranteed chunks. Woods hit four fat chips on Thursday, and not the PGA Tour-caliber chunks. These were like the handiwork of 20-handicapper Sunday hackers, laying-the-sod over chips that went a few feet and rolled back to his feet.

They were embarrassing.

Former instructor Hank Haney Tweeted a couple of interesting thoughts as the chunks unfolded...


No Laying Up Vined the chunked shots. Hat tip to Alex Myers for sharing at The Loop.

 

ESPN.com's Bob Harig predicted the reaction would look past health and to the wedge performance.

Woods actually was pleased, for the most part, with the way he hit the ball -- he didn't miss a fairway on the back nine after hitting just one on the front. And at this point -- four months removed from his last competitive round, at least a month prior to his next tournament -- that's a positive development.

Even more so was the smile Woods flashed when asked if he was in any pain.

"I have absolutely no pain," Woods said. "I haven't said that in a long time. It's very exciting to stand up there and hit some of the drives, especially on the back nine. It was nice to start launching it."

It should be noted Woods displayed similar wedge game issues at times in 2014, especially at Torrey Pines. It's an issue that's not going away, sadly. We've all been there in some way, but we were also never one of the greatest to play the game.

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@PGT - as I understand it, TW's shaft lean increased dramatically when he overhauled his swing per Foley's instructions. This shaft lean crept into his short game. Before Foley, he used to chip/pitch much more centered and used the bounce of the club.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterGary Dell
@ digs Hands leading and someone needs to introduce TW to "Mr. Bounce" that resides at the bottom of his wedges.

Putting "into" the green from off the green is tough touch to master. Like the #5 wood or hybrid better. But he has some issues working in the area residing between his right ear and left ear right now.

Never saw such a good player totally lose his short game as miserably as the display by TW yesterday. Someone mentioned that bad chipping (yips) gets into players heads ...indeed it can.

RE: your wish Reed is -8 through 10 holes while the Return of Mr. Woods is Level Fours through 10 holes. AT the moment he is "taking" him by 8 shots, but could get to your "dozen" number shortly. You are psychic.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterPro from Dover
@ Gary Dell, I wouldn't see it that way myself at all, plus one post before you says he needs 'more' forward shaft lean, which I tend to agree with. Here's why:

I studied Phil a little in the last while and noticed that he probably has the most forward lean in his chipping and pitching of any player on tour. He almost always catches the ball before the ground. The consistency is simply amazing. (Not talking about the flop shots here) Tiger could use a short game lesson from Phil.

The first person I showed the vine videos to immediately said 'yips.' I sure hope Tiger does;'t have the chipping yips.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
CC, I hear you, but Chris Couch had the yips so bad he chipped cross-handed and chipped in to win at New Orleans, so I'm sticking with Kaymer. There were a few at Pinehurst where he was so far off the green he looked like a 18-handicap club member putting instead of chipping.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterSal Bonpensiero
" wouldn't see it that way myself at all, plus one post before you says he needs 'more' forward shaft lean, "

PA, a teacher you are not. Too much shaft lean is what leads to the digging, and as PRO said, not using the bounce. A bunch of the best teachers were talking about it this morning on Leadbetter's radio show. Stick to posting and leave the diagnostic's to a pro.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterMason Wolfe
"Forget about fairway shots from inside 80 yards...oh man, I need a drink."

dsl, you may have touched on something. I had to revert to alcohol back in the day when I played more competitive golf and for me (not everyone, I realize) it was definitely a "swing lubricant" that helped. The problem is that you start to believe that is the only way you can play under heat and then you're in a cycle that's not good. Hard to get the formula "just right". Vinny Giles was caught in this cycle for a while a few years back before "intervention" from friends. Never saw him play without the white "Styrofoam" cup for many years. Wasn't the yips, just relaxed him.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterFrank
Message to TW re results at Hero World Challenge: fuggedaboutit ! Your back health and recovery are number 1 and you're working off "rust".

Brandel and the rest of golf's talking heads have brought up an interesting golf debate in response to TW's chunky chips (hey, there's an idea for an ice cream name). Are the chip and short pitch swings just mini golf swings or unique swings? Golf physics guys that I follow say that the chip/short pitch should be more synced with less separation than the full swing. Brandel and the Cro-Magnon looking guy are now saying the two swings are identical. I say they are confusing forward body motion with separation.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJoe Duffer
Mason Wolfe - Mickelson has repeated numerous times that he hinges and holds on chips. His instructional video makes it very clear that he believes this is the ONLY way to chip.

If you hinge and hold, you are going to come in with a forward shaft lean because you are holding the angle. But holding also flattens the swing path. Wood's problem is he is way to steep and he is attempting to release the club in the process, something Mickelson warns against. In fact, in his instructional video, Mickelson says that if someone tells you to release, "they don't know what the hell they are talking about" - his words.

What you have done is made conclusions on the incomplete chatter of Chamblee, Olberhoser and John Cook.

Buy Mickelson's instructional video and you will be better informed.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
Pro- and no crystal ball!

Seriously, most good wedges are available with 3 bounces, and the pros can get whatever grind they need, as you know. Bing a Texas guy, I found that ''into'' often works with an exxagerated weight on the front leg and a ''pop'' stroke on the back of the ball....but like all chipping it requires a great deal of practice.

Reed was impressive!
12.5.2014 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
I've read shaft lean, bounce, grain, leading edge, hybrid...really? Are you folks so desperate to find fault or quality based on 1 round of golf. This is ridiculous.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered Commentermeefer
No one's mentioned Tiger lifting his head before impact. That's why I chunk chip shots. Also why I shank one now and then. At least he didn't do that. Yet.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterSt. Copious
Whoever said that its amazingly difficult to chip at Isleworth is right. If you're a bit off - watch out....chunk/blade city. Clearly Tiger was a little off.

Let's talk in April of 2015. Then we can have a real assessment.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJRP
ADG, Mickelson is one of the few pros who chip that way. If you can do it, fine, keep doing it, I'm sure you're not doing what you think you are. The guru in Utopia said the side-saddle was the best putting stance, I don't see anyone incorporating that into their repitoire. Why don't you bring that "hinge and hold" action down here to South Carolina with a big old bag of money and let's see how it holds up under heat. You might want to pop in a few other instructional tapes and play them as well before making the trek. Don't forget to bring the money.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterMason Wolfe
Long live hinge and hold. It is the only method that is chunk-proof, provided the golfer employs a good setup.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJoe Duffer
@Frank - I'll give it a shot (pun intended).
12.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterDsl
I don't like Tiger, and I consistently root for most of his opponents. But if he finds his old swing he just may find his old short game. Even if it becomes only 75% of what it used to be, and he never putts with the same authority, he will contend in majors again. And finish off a few of them.
12.5.2014 | Unregistered Commenter3foot1
@joe duffer

While I agree, I also think the other ingredients to success with the hinge/hold are, the right loft/ bounce, the backswing length, and accelerating thru the ball.

All chipping and pitching requires a great deal of practice to get good, and it is very important to find a ball that one likes the feel of.

Have a good weekend.
12.6.2014 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
@digsouth,

Tru, dat: "I also think the other ingredients to success with the hinge/hold are, the right loft/ bounce, the backswing length, and accelerating thru the ball." Opening the face slightly when confronted with tight lie and using wedge with optimal bounce for conditions are also critical to preventing flubbed chips,
12.6.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJoe Duffer

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