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Apr132008

2008 Final Round Thoughts

masterslogo.gifWell, we have a class act winner who finished it off beautifully even with one final knuckleball thrown his way on 18.

Most of you regular readers know what I think at this point about the changed golf course dynamics impacting the way the field plays, the time it takes and the hushed atmosphere in general.

We'll hash through that later on, but I'm curious mostly what your thoughts are of the week, Trevor Immelman, Tiger, Phil, the coverage, etc...

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who moved the pga championship up in the schedule?

us open-lite setup and just avoid the doubles and the bogeys.

here's to laying up!
Snedeker had 9 bogeys in the final round and still managed a tie for 3rd.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterGreg
I miss Hootie.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterLaJuanita Mumps
The pivotal moment was when Tiger said that it was playing like a US Open. Knocked the wind out of the sails of the Johnson/Fazio yacht, no matter how much the commentators sucked up.

Hilarious moment was Chairman Payne's exhortation of opening golf up to the masses...as long as they aren't female.

Many thanks Geoff for all your work. Riveting blog.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterDave
TW proved once again that he is the best Major front runner of all times. AN proved that it can be a US Open like. The toonamint,without anyone making a Sunday charge on the back 9, was like watching a NASCAR race waiting for disaster to strike.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteven T.
My take: Immelman deserves more credit than he will ever receive for this win. After a near-cancer scare last fall, he showed what he is truly made of this week, particularly after making only 4 cuts out of 8 events played this year. He was truly skillful, thoughtfully selecting angles, approaches, and playing breaks beautifully. Jim McCabe's analysis aside, and I would add that I hold Jim in the absolute highest esteem, Trevor played in a matter befitting the next generation of golfers and golf fans; he was composed, steady, fearless and most of all, fun to watch.

He and Snedecker actually enjoyed the round. The ultimate highlight should be the true handshake they shared after the 72nd hole, it was more high school-buddies than major championship competitors.

As far as the coverage is concerned, it's not what I would like to see, but until they change networks (and they are not likely to change anything about the tournament for a long time) CBS and their team will be there. I would just soon wish they would let fescue grow somewhere, anywhere, but I know better now. And how they could miss Immelman's tee shot at 16 ( a water hole!!) is absolutely ridiculous. Maybe the cameras were still set on Tiger.

On a personal note, at last year's Deutsche Bank Championship, we had a chance to spend 5 minutes with Trevor between holes on the last practice day. My 3 sons ( who are between 7 and 11) were greeted with handshakes, smiles and pats on the head.

That's my litmus for being a golf fan - if they can't be nice to the young fans, then I can't really root for them. Needless to say, I've been a fan of Trevor's since last Labor Day, and will likely be for a long, long time.
I don't know much about Immelman other than what I saw at the Western Open and what Nantz was telling us the last couple days...but he sure seems likable without being a bore. I hope to see a lot more of him...and I hope they start re-running his FedEx Cup commercial with Vijay.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterLip Out
The feeling just wasn't the same - from the televised Par-3 Contest, to the players comments about the course and conditions, to the anti-climatic finish, it just didn't feel like the Masters. The Course, which has always received the attention for its beauty and fairness, is now receiving attention for its difficulty, length, and how it beats up golfers. Its too long, leads to extra long rounds, and has become "just another Major." It was also boring to watch with no opportunities for birdies and the slower pace of play. The membership at Augusta should be extremely ashamed and disappointed. They have taken a priceless work of art and put a pricetag on it. Sad.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterPaul
I remember seeing Immelman win the Pub Links at Torrey Pines and thought he was going to turn out to be a hell of a player. Honestly, I'm surprised it took so long, health issues aside. This was no fluke. More majors are in this kid's future and I personally think he's a more steady player than his contemporary countrymen. A great ballstriking effort! Congrats to him!
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Stamm
This weekend was my first ever visit to Augusta National. I must say that this will always be a wonderful tournament and a special golf course. The fact that it's such a limited field will assure that there is always a quality champion.

That said, I was really disappointed that they have changed the course to the point that a 1986 Nicklaus-like charge seems really unlikely anymore. I don't know if the coverage reflected it, but the course was very US Open-like. Just long and brutal. It's a shame because I was more confident in a train wreck for the leaders to come back to the field than I was for a contender to make a big run on the back 9.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterTPC San Antonio
Good, but certainly not great tournament.

I think #13 is one of golf's greatest holes, and now is better because of a little more length. Still very reachable with good drives so the 4 & 1/2 concept remains.

The pitches Immelman and Tiger made into that green were wonderful.

If Tiger makes that putt at 13, things could have gotten real interesting.

Amazing that Immelman went left at 16, but he finished well and was a classy winner.







04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterTuna
Immelman is a great Champion. As real class act, I would hope to see him become one of the top 5 in the world.
I think a tournament like this shows the brilliance of Tiger. He did not have his all around game, yet he finishes second, again. When the rest of the top players struggle with a part of their game in a major they miss the cut or finish well down the leader board.
The work with the course has really become a shame. How many years is it without real Sunday excitement. It seems the negative comments from the players are becoming louder. Please, bring back the width.
I agree that as long as the Masters is televised by CBS we are going to continue to be left wanting to throw up. When Jim Nantz and Billy Payne shook hands in the Butler Cabin I was glad I had not had anything to eat for a couple of hours. I thought they were going to kiss. Let's face it, we are never going to get anything but the company line from CBS. Do you think the tournament committee wanted Lunquist to mention the new Patron viewing area on 16?
Geoff, wonderful job with the blogging during the week. Its one stop shopping for Masters coverage on the internet. Can't wait for the US Open.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterChris
"Can't wait for the US Open." - Chris

:) You just watched it. haha
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterPaul
ANGC, use to be so special. Now, it resembles every other tour stop only with Azalea's and blinding white sand.

Tiger should threaten skipping it some year, at least until they fix that blowing soft silica.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterAdam Clayman
I find it sad that what I think is the only MacKenize bunker left on the course (the large irregular-shaped bunker about 50 yards or so in front of the 10th green) is never in play.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterGreg
Boy am I glad I have TiVo and can zip from shot to shot. Back when only the back 9 was broadcast a much deeper field was shown because there were so many opportunities for brilliance and disaster, and anyone posting anything within 5 or 6 shots of the lead had a chance to win. Today CBS could loaf around Woods and anyone north of him without fear of missing a charge.

Here's what I say: the Masters is now the 5th major, not the Players. Weak field + US Open clone vs strong field + Florida golf at its pinnacle. What a shame.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterF. X.
Although I agree with a lot of the recent criticisms, this seemed to be a well-played, compelling tournament through 54 holes. I think today's round suffered from brutal conditions, with a dose of poor execution and frazzled nerves thrown in the mix.

The highlights of the day were the caddy reactions in the '78 replay. Hubert misses that short one to tie and his caddy collapses. Classic.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterRM
I count two exciting moments in five hours of coverage -- Snedeker's eagle putt on #2 and Tiger's birdie putt on #11. Overall, less interesting than any other tournament I've watched this year. I would say the Master's is now my least favorite major.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterMark Holthoff
I love watching the majors. I get very excited for them. I have hardly watched the last two Masters. Not only do I miss the aggressive play, but the event no longer seems to feature several players contending late into Sunday. I am no gearhead, but it reminds me of an F-1 race - very few changes atop the leaderboard. The Masters used to be like Nascar - trading paint, lead swaps, spectacular crashes, and full throttle finishes (at least that is what I am told Nascar is like.)
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterTighthead
Also, will someone please tell Jim Nantz that less is more? He just couldn't stop nannering. I would pay handsomely for the option of turning off his voice without loosing the rest of the sound.

(And, in the above post, of course I mean the Masters not the Master's.)
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterMark Holthoff
the masses' take will be simply this: Tiger lost. that somebody else won matters not at all. and you know what? they have a point. if he's operating at 3/4 speed nobody in this field touches him. and so golf's biggest problem remains this: no regular rivals/foils for Tiger. in fact, nobody besides tiger anymore who wins tournaments that matter on a regular basis, except for PM. consider this: if you take mickelson out of the mix, only two major winners since 2002 (furyk, ogilvy) have won a tournament of any kind of consequence following a major win. they celebrate, make their dough, disappear from the competitive landscape. here's hoping TI doesn't fade into the Campbell-Johnson-etc. woodwork.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered Commenterkudzu
I count two (2) rounds in the 60's on Sunday, and those two by guys who weren't contending. One 68 by Jimenez, in the middle of the field and one 69 by -- here's the kicker -- I don't remember.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Chuck, how could you overlook Heath Slocum?

If Tiger is putting he wins by 4.

Every tournament remains his to lose.

They need a dome for days like this.

Faldo says the "first cut." Do they talk to the talent at production meetings?
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterLynn S.
Congratulations to Trevor, a fine young man. Hopefully, he will have many more like days.

Thanks for your great work, Geoff.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterAunt Blabbie
Overall a boring Masters, not to take away from the winner. Something about the Masters isn't what it used to be.
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterJIm
The winner shot 75, and wasn't realy challenged on the backside (oops, second nine). That just says it all. Half way to getting to 80 as the winning score (Alittle more rough, couple more trees). Keep up the good work! Great to watch...zzzzzz....

Imagine the boredom if Tiger wasn't near the top. They have done a great job of wrecking 15. Unless you thread a great drive, you now just lay up because of trees.

Perhaps par was 77 today, but with the course so severally set-up, there is no way to back the course down or more properly said the Augusta members want to host a US Open-like tourney now..

Sadly the Masters is now just another TIVO golf telecast, instead of a "must see live TV".
04.13.2008 | Unregistered CommenterDoc Ock
Immelman is a worthy Masters champion who won the title with his fine play over the first three days, and then managed not to lose it on the fourth. His par putt on 9 (and to a lesser extent 11) was a prime example of how to stop the bleeding, and saved his round when it all could have slipped away, particularly after his misses on 7 and 8.

Yes, there was a disappointing US Open feel to the round Sunday, but the weather was the main reason for that. Saturday was certainly more exciting than any US Open round I can recall.

The '78 telecast is instructive: to bring back the roars, dial back the greens just a bit. Notice how much less the ball trickled back then, not being drawn inexorably towards the bigger slopes. The second cut and most of the newer trees (except 11) would be ok if the greens could just get back to a less punishing (crucial word) standard.
04.14.2008 | Unregistered Commenterjneu
did you hear that Immelman's boyhood hero was Gary Player??

signed,
Jerome Bettis is from Detroit & Stephen Curry is Del Curry's son.
04.14.2008 | Unregistered Commenterphil
Trevor was here for the HK Open last November and his gallery of 5 (me, the scoreboard guy, the match referee and two other 'fans') followed him around for a while. We were treated to this little diddy on the 9th fairway: "My drives are sh*#, my irons are sh*#, my putting is sh*#, what the f*%k am I doing here?"
A few weeks later, he won the Sun City thingy and now he's the proud owner of a green jacket.
Golf's a funny old game.....
04.14.2008 | Unregistered CommenterDick Mahoon
I find it strange that Payne says he wants to open it up "to the masses" and then they don't allow the internet coverage of 11/12/13/15/16 and Masters Extra to anyone outside the U.S

Obviously he means "to the masses of Americans"
04.14.2008 | Unregistered CommenterFuzzed
Another boring US Open. Two years straight, lay-ups on 13 and 15 win. Now we only have one tournament to watch and it's in Scotland.
Save it? Release the pine beetles, termites and tree spades, mow it wall to wall, Ban the Pope of Design from ever stepping foot on the place again and crank up the Sennheisers while telling the announcers to shut up.
I feel like I was dosed with Ipecac for the entire back nine.
Randy Wilson
04.14.2008 | Unregistered CommenterRandy Wilson
Jim Nantz gave me diabetes!
04.14.2008 | Unregistered Commenterdsl
Seriously though, Immelman played well. His train wreck was smaller than the other train wrecks and he won. I was waiting all day for his lucky breaks to come back and bite him in the arse - I guess the tee shot on 16 and the divot on 18 were his 'payback'. Perhaps the Gods aren't as cruel as we thought?

The group I was watching with noticed that Tiger looked exhausted on Sunday. It was like he'd convinced himself that this WAS a US Open and he looked like he'd aged considerably since Thursday. A low round was out there for him, but his loose shots and poor putting cost him in the end. At one point, I remember saying 'ok, he's still got 3 birdies out there on 13, 15 & 17'. Eventually, he just ran out of chances (How does he miss that badly on the approach to 14?).

In my opinion, no one else had a chance. And my ears didn't stand a chance either. On 18, Nantz refused to let the crowd take over and just kept talking and talking and talking. Hopefully he and Freddie will found a moment for their own green jacket ceremony sometime on the weekend. Maybe Jim slipped Freddie's jacket on him before he stepped into the champions locker room on Friday?

04.14.2008 | Unregistered Commenterdsl
The Masters is The Girls Next Door of golf tournaments: food for the eyes, starvation for the soul.
04.14.2008 | Unregistered CommenterTruthsayer
The lengthening at 13 and the narrowing at 15 have taken away the most exciting part of the Masters: the possibility of eagle in the late stretches. I can't immediately think of another course with equally-compelling risk-reward holes. But Nicklaus in '86 can't happen with the way those holes set up now.
04.14.2008 | Unregistered CommenterJordan
Why was the final group two holes behind Tiger/Cink, and why isn't this a problem?

Those two, particularly Immelman, took insufferably long over the ball. Even my 6-year old was asking "Dad, why is this guy taking so long to hit it?"
04.14.2008 | Unregistered CommenterDave
I agree that it seemed a little hollow this year (and last), but I attribute that to the course set up and not that Tiger didn't win. Seems like Trevor has the inside track on the Grand Slam with the first in hand and his Publinks memories from Torrey Pines. Also, he has some links experience, albeit at Sandwich, with a runner-up finish as a 17 yr old in the Amateur Championship in 1997. That leaves only the PGA not solidly in his grasp - does he have any connections to Oakland Hills?
04.14.2008 | Unregistered CommenterMatt
the media keeps saying how great Immelman played Sunday and how poorly Tiger played, yet Immelman shot a 75 and Tiger shot a 72.

Also, how come the media never roast "nice guys" like Snedeker and Flesch when they blow up while in contention. Snedeker (77) and Flesch (78) crapped their pants on sunday and everyone seems to praise them- why? Those guys have won tournaments on tour before so it's not like they should get a pass.

Also, how come the CBS guys always praise Peter Kostis as Paul Casey's instructor when he's playing well, but then say nothing when he's shooting 79 on sunday.

I would like Nance to say something like - hey Kostis, what happened to your guy, he almost shot 80 when he had a chance to win a major. I'd like to see what Kostis would have to say then.

On Friday and Saturday- when Casey was playing well, all your heard was how Kostis was his instructor, but then on Sunday when he's playing terrible, all of the sudden you don't hear a peep about that.
04.14.2008 | Unregistered CommenterJoe
Time to return to back-9 coverage - actually spent more time on-line watching Amen Corner coverage w/ Bobby Clampett than watching the CBS coverage - in the old days, you spent the rist 2 hours of coverage watching the eagles and doubles on 13/15.

AN needs to get a pair, institute a high spin tournament ball and return the course to its former wide-open glory. (they are the only organization with the power and prestige to do it)

Let's see, every other sport has to birfucate the rules for professional play (and what is the USGA going to do with the new groove rule) IE - the NFL plays with a different ball, and 2 feet down vs 1 in college, MLB with wooden vs. aluminum bats, NBA 3pt line, 24 sec clock and width of lane, only two substitutes in World Cup play, squash has different speed balls and sized rackets..etc...)

... players would be able to curve the ball, drives would be more inacurate, and players would then have to really worry about spinning the ball back into the water on holes like 13 and 15. Even better would be to then cut down driver volume to 265cc and putthe miss-hits back into the game. That would really put some variablility and excitement into the game.

04.14.2008 | Unregistered CommenterDoug
No Grand Slam !!! Thank god thats over. The streak is now TWO LOSSES.
04.14.2008 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Sullivan

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