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Oct112010

Pro V1s Promise Not To Get Emotional On You As Highly Anticipated Anniversary Nears

Golf World Monday notes the 10-year anniversary of the paradigm-shifting introduction of Titleist's Pro V1 this week. Confirming that the fall is indeed a slow news time in golf.

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It was a like ringing a bell
And all the bank accounts started to swell
But then It was again starting to smell

As all the old courses were starting to fall
The USGA began to counter as well

That everyone was now so strong and tall
The fields were in the end just too small

The day the old courses began to fall
10.11.2010 | Unregistered Commenterjohnny knoxville
I remember playing with the new golf ball in Florida in January (I had been given some "preview golf balls from my sales rep). . . I hit 2 balls off every tee (playing 9 holes by myself) to compare the new ball with last year's titleist. . . I was consistently 12 yards longer off the tee and 1 iron longer with the new golf ball. . . A driver five iron hole had suddenly become driver and 7 or even 8 iron. . . And, of course, it still spun with short shots. . . I was not getting older - I was getting better!
10.11.2010 | Unregistered CommenterWisconsin Reader
I was a mid to high twenties handicap when I bought my first box of V1's, and...well, the enduring memory I have was standing over the ball with a swing thought of "...this is $5.50 if it goes in the woods." By the time I got that demon out of my head, I was playing off a three. Thanks, Wally.
10.11.2010 | Unregistered CommenterReverendTMac
I just love how it acts with good wedges and chip shots.

I went from a 13 to a 5 in 2 rounds!!! not really.

Great thing is, here in the hill country of Texas, the stray tee shots all end up in the same collecton areas, so if it's not a Top Flite #3, it is usually a new ProVI. I can pay for a round by allowing an exra 20 mnutes to ball hound.
10.11.2010 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
Reverend, where did you buy that golf ball? The pro shop at Pebble Beach?

As for thanking Wally? Maybe, but probably not. I should be playing from my blue tees (a hilly 6250 yards) rather than the gold tees (6800). The fallen angel on my right shoulder that tells me I do have a better swing than in 1999 reinforces the notion that I am getting better instead of older, just like WR. Playing an uphill 440-yard hole with a driver and 7-iron (when the stars are aligned) is seductive, given that 10 years ago it would have taken a driver and 5-wood and 10 years before that a driver and stepped-on 3-wood (both made of persimmon) from a perfect fluffy lie in the first cut of rough. Granted, the 460-cc titanium driver and spin-milled wedge also contribute to my current "skills" (a "3" now, a "7" then). But they are mostly due to the domesticated 5-piece Pinnacle that gazes back up at me from the 4-inch tee in the ground (I have mixed up my manufacturers, but you get the point). The better angel on my left shoulder realizes that the bargain is not worth the expense, in either money or vandalism, of what I see on my teevee, from Augusta, St. Andrews, and elsewhere. It would have been cheaper to my psyche, not to mention the Game, to stay on the blue tees for now while looking forward to the white tees in another 10 years, and just let the hotshots on TV and the college boys have the gold tees for their very own playground.
Ha, ha, ha, what a load of bull. Thanks for helping make my day a happy one.
10.11.2010 | Unregistered CommenterAunt Blabbie
Don't mention it! ;-))
Can't tell you how many Pro V1's I have found while searching for my playing partners balls. If you are hitting them when I find them, you are wasting money. I once went to a golf shop to purchase a box of Pro-v's for my boyfriend, and the guy at the cash register asked "Are you buying these for yourself? If you are, I can recommend something better for you & less expensive." Nuff said. That shop has my loyalty forever. This is marketing excellence at it finest.
10.11.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBoop!
Ky, the Pinnacle is also a Wally ball, so no mixup there. The V1 is just a Pinnacle that was taught how to dance. It was always bound to happen, it's almost surprising that it only happened 15 years after the Tour Edition.
10.11.2010 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
Ky - this was back when the US dollar was pretty damn powerful vs. the Canadian one...I'm sure if you factored in exchange, it would have been about what everyone else was paying. My club at the time, sadly, was no Pebble Beach.

As for buying them today...I still don't. If my case of ProVphobia has helped in any way, it's that I'm very open to trying new ammo, which has lead to an attitude somewhere around "they'll take my Z-StarX's out of my cold, dead hands". Although I did try the new NXT Tour on the weekend and was very pleasantly surprised...
10.12.2010 | Unregistered CommenterReverendTMac
Reverend-good choice!
The nxt tour is a better ball than the pro v for the majority of club golfers.Not always easy to convince people though.
10.12.2010 | Unregistered Commenterchico
Funny how some continue to slam the Pro-V1 when it was at least the 4th ball on tour that was multi-layer urethane solid core construction behind the Top Flite Strata, Nike Tour Accuracy and The Callaway Rule 35. Precept may have had a solid core multi layer ball on tour at that time as well. But I guess since most professionals play the Pro V1 (piad by titliest or otherwise) they are an easy target.
10.12.2010 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
The Pro V 1 was the first to be greatly accepted and widely used by the top flite amateurs and professionals. And it is still no. 1.

The others had the same idea but for some reason, brand loyalty or monthly check, were never embraced. Since they were not widely used, they didn't affect much.
10.12.2010 | Unregistered Commenterjstiles
Ah, my local sporting goods store was selling them for 30 bucks when they first came out - i would buy them out save for a couple boxes, put them up on ebay, and if i remember correctly, there was actually a time there when they were hitting triple digits...
10.12.2010 | Unregistered Commentergolfboy
The best part of the old Pro-V1s was the ability to seam the golf ball on the tee. Line it up properly, and you'd get a lower and straighter ball flight.

One of the bigger innovations in golf balls that hasn't gotten as much attention is the dimple pattern. When Callaway came out with the HX golf balls, the hexagonal dimples made the ball much more stable in the wind. So much so, that Titleist came out with their version of the hexagonal dimples for the Pro-V1s a couple of years later.
10.12.2010 | Unregistered CommenterChene
Nick Price got to number 1 playing the PRecept, which was an unbelievable ball.
Most guys on Tour thought it was pretty crazy when Tiger switched to the Nike (Bridgestone) ball.
Then he pummeled the crap out of everybody with it, and the ball wars began.
Bridgestone was light years ahead of everybody at that time, and their balls were so much more consistent from ball to ball, it was unbelievable. There were at least 4 options of the Bridgestone balls, in the Tour Accuracy model alone.
This was the time when really good players began to understand fitting the ball to their own wings and launch characteristics/optimums
10.12.2010 | Unregistered Commenterfatgoalie
I buy my balls at "knetgolf.com" and whether I want V1's or NXT's or, for that matter, any other brand, I get great value and don't mind if I lose one because the price is so right. Mint V1's for about $25/dz.
Worth the look.

By the way, Nicklaus can't say ten words without including I or my.
10.12.2010 | Unregistered CommenterCkurlish
@OWGR:

"Precept may have had a solid core multi layer ball on tour at that time as well.'

Bridgestone made the Precept and if IIRC won a bunch of patent infringement cases v. Nike and/or TM and/or Calloway. I always got the impression they were at the forefront of the technology but were never able to leverage it.
10.12.2010 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
@dbn... Quite aware of the Bridgestone/Precept connection. As it is now the Bridgestone B330 suite of balls available in the US are variations of the Tourstage line of golf balls.

The Pink Precept that Paula Creamer on the LPGA used to play was actually a rebadged Tourstage ball as it was a urethane covered ball and not a surlyn covered balll that was made available to the public. That ball is no longer on the conforming list as it is no longer manufactured and that Paula now plays a Bridgestone branded ball. Tourstage (Bridgestone) has a ton of different balls available in Japan. They also make a ball specificlally for Ryo as well. The number of conforming golf balls by Tourstage on the USGA list is staggering.

Not sure if Bridgestone ever sued Nike on golf balls as Nike has been under contract with Bridgestone to manufacture their golf balls. I do believe they settled with TM, Callaway and Titleist on ball patent suits.
10.12.2010 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
Thanks for the clarification, OWGR. I knew I was hazy on the details.
What I really want is a box of a Precept precursor, the Dyna Wing. I found one once and it was like hitting a super ball. Compliance be damned, look at the flight of that 7 iron. :)
10.12.2010 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
dbh.... I recall the Dynawing ball but never had the chance to play it. Recall they had a ball called Newing as well.

To clarify something I posted above.... Precept did selll the Paula Creamer pink urethane ball for a short time. They sold it in 1/2 dozen packs for around 20.00
10.12.2010 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
OWGR

just to clarify, Ryo Ishikawa actually plays a Srixon ball product
10.13.2010 | Unregistered Commenterbayhill bogey
bayhill.... thanks for the correction. I thought he had gone with the Tourstage ball earlier this year as he was testing it, Srixon and a few others.
10.13.2010 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan

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