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Tuesday
Dec022014

Roundup: Tiger Looks Rested, Ready, Slimmer, Better...

After a year of painful press conferences denying the obvious, Tiger Woods appears to have either (A) had an intervention from Notah Begay (B) listened to his critics (C) listened to his mother (C) had a moment of honest introspection, or (D) a combination of the above. Because not only did he manage to make some major admissions for his ownself, but Woods just looked younger, refreshed and less burdened.

He may still stink it up this week due to rust, but it was hard not to watch him talk or hit balls and see that he's made positive changes in his game. So much so that it appeared to have unburdened him of the defensiveness that plagued most of these sessions in the last year.

Of course, getting to the choice words was tough, as his Tuesday Hero World Challenge press conference was nearly upstaged by some of the finest rally killers the modern game has ever seen. The Guinness World Records people are looking into whether a record was set for rally killers and also into "brand value" references by Hero CEO Pawan Mujal, whose presence also added to the rally kills.

You can read the full transcript here.

Dave Shedloski at GolfDigest.com was there and noted the new kid vibe.

Looking 10-15 pounds lighter but still just as muscular in the arms and shoulders, Woods said he had no interest in reprising the golf game from his youth until he suffered a lower back injury earlier this year that scuttled most of his 2014 season. Woods made just seven starts that included two missed cuts and two withdrawals. He failed to post a top-10 finish for the first time in his career.

Steve DiMeglio asked Woods about his back in between questions about the Hero brand nonsense and got this answer, reported on his roundup.

"The body is good. I've gotten stronger. I've gotten more explosive. I've gotten faster," Woods said Tuesday.

"I just now need to hit more balls, but the body is good. I don't have the sharp pain like I used to at the beginning of the year. I still have some aches and pains, just like anybody else who is my age and older. …

"But I'm past the rehab portion of it, and now I'm in the strength development of it, and I don't have to do those tedious little rehab exercises. I can basically play with my kids and do whatever I want. We've been playing a ton of soccer in the backyard just about every day."

He's also been hitting a bunch of golf balls in the backyard of his Florida compound.

Bob Harig addressed the Chris Como part of the equation, among other topics.

Saying it is "new, but it's old,'' Woods said he reviewed video going back to his junior golf days that preceded a 79-victory career on the PGA Tour that includes 14 major championships.

"It was quite interesting to see where my swing was then and how much force I could generate with a very skinny frame,'' Woods said Tuesday during a pre-tournament news conference. "How did I do that? How do I generate that much power? That's kind of what we are getting back into.''

Michael Collins noted Tiger's unusually forthright answers, including a rare "I don't know" uttered on many occasions, suggest a new, more humble and self-aware man.

Tiger Woods was at his most honest and vulnerable as I have ever seen him saying those three words Tuesday prior to the Hero World Challenge he is hosting this week.

That's a phrase athletes, especially ones who are considered by some to be greatest of all time in their sport, rarely use when talking about themselves and their game.

Tiger said "I don't know" more than I've ever heard him utter it in his career.

The man who appears to be behind Woods' self-realization movement, Notah Begay, talked to Golf Channel's Ryan Burr on Golf Central. Video here.

"[Tiger] called me a day or two after the PGA Championship. I could tell he was a little dejected and a little bit disappointed in how the season had gone... But mostly it was an athlete and a friend who was in pain physically… So it was time to have a candid conversation.”

And this was revealing:

“He had to take ownership over his own golf swing… My job was not necessarily to provide answers, but to ask more informed questions. ‘What did he want his swing to look like? What was most important to him?... How do we get rid of this [back] pain?’... He really started to formulate ideas on what he felt needed to happen.”

Jason Sobel said the vibe Tuesday at Isleworth was one of golf returning to normal, which could also speak to Woods' newfound comfort level with where he's at physically and mentally.

Now that Woods is returning to action once again, it feels like the golf world is getting back to some normalcy. That world doesn’t revolve around him, but he at least helps place it back on the proper axis.

Matthew Rudy talked to Hank Haney and the former Tiger instructor also sees mostly positives, even predicting a Woods run at the '14 World Challenge title.

"It's going to be an interesting week to watch," says Haney, who had his own public debut as Woods' coach at Bay Hill in March 2004. "His body looks different, and he says he's able to practice his normal amount now.

That means at least his short game should be different. Does he try to shape shots? Will he play some draws? We could see a lot of different things, and there will probably be more to come."

Brian Wacker seized on the retro effort by Woods to reclaim past elements of his swing.

Added Woods: “I think that physically, I just wasn't able to do some of the things that we wanted to do in the golf swing.”

Ultimately, that’s what prompted Woods to change coaches and go in a new, old direction.

Brendan Mohler at golf.com pulls up some old swing video and notes this about the changes.

When asked about what went wrong with Sean Foley, Woods said, “Physically I just wasn’t able to do some of the things that we wanted to do in the golf swing.” Tiger also noted that the two remain friends and often needle each other via text message.

While Woods said that he does not yet feel entirely game ready, he did note that he is pleased with the progress he’s made thus far.

“It hasn’t taken me that long to implement it. I haven’t done it in a long time but my body’s remembering it. I’m very pleased with my speed and the freedom I have, and what I’m doing with the golf ball.

“I don’t feel like I’m hitting it very hard, but it’s coming off the face faster. That part was exciting.”

Here is Woods talking about the switch from Golf Central's coverage.

And the transcript component of the day's most interesting answer related to balancing technology, technique and swing thoughts.

Q.  Is it fair to say or would you say that maybe in the last couple years, you had gotten too technical and away from some of the naturalness that you had once enjoyed in your game and your swing?

TIGER WOODS:  Well, I think that I got into‑‑ just like I think a lot of people in this generation, the new information of TrakMan, and trying to get the numbers to jive and trying to get the motions to match.  And I think that that's been extremely informative because it's helped me during this process, but it's not the only thing I'm going to do.

Still retain the feel in my hands and how I hit golf shots; but also I have an understanding that if I do something, these numbers should be like this.  Because I didn't have that understanding and I didn't have that basis when I worked‑‑ when I was going into working with Sean.

So that was very new.  That's something that I think that is very helpful but can't be the end of all things.

As for the event benefiting his foundation, in one of the worst kept secrets in golf, Woods confirmed the stop at Isleworth is a one-off move for the Hero World Challenge before going to the Bahamas starting in 2015. Rex Hoggard reports. And just think volunteers who spent over $100 for a uniform you'll wear six times…it’s a collectible!

Who is Hero and why did they mess up a perfectly interesting press conference? Bob Harig says they want to sell Americans motorcyles and motor scooters starting in 2016 and that Tiger, mercifully, has no intention of trying out the product.

But Woods admitted he has never ridden one.

"And even with Hero's valuable sponsorship this year and for the next three years, there's no way I'm about to start,'' Woods said, smiling.

Woods makes his return to competitive golf at the Hero World Challenge after a four-month absence due to injuries. The annual tournament benefits the Tiger Woods Foundation.

Michael Buteau also reported on the Hero deal that is both a personal endorsement deal and a World Challenge sponsorship, despite Tiger's best efforts to only play up the foundation portion.

Neither Hero nor Woods’s agent, Mark Steinberg, would disclose financial terms of the agreement.
In a statement, Munjal said Woods is “not just a golfing champion and an icon for millions around the world; he is indeed a phenomenon -– a symbol of humility in victory and grace in adversity.”

If you have a few extra minutes, GolfDigest.com has this Jaime Diaz reported look at Tiger's swing changes through the years.

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The problem was never his body or his swing. Before the fire hydrant he won majors coming out of the trees, holing downhill left to right putts he had no right to make, hitting greens out of fairway bunkers with a torn knee. The problem has always been in his head. Watching late night comedians and the National Enquirer snicker at him injured his pride beyond repair, and he hasn't won a major since. Now, once again, he's trying to solve something mental by losing weight, or refining his technique, or changing coaches. I'm rooting for him to make one final run at Jack, but I'm more than a little suspicious that his brain is fried.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered Commenterhighside
bs and Hillside - good comments. I still say that if he regains his once deadly putting he's not going to need much change to his tee-to-green play. Making everything inside 10 feet like he once did will make him competitive every week he tees it up. JC
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJonathan
I agree- tiger was the best from 100 yards in I've ever seen- and that includes Seve. More swings posted in the Uk today from different angles and you could drive a truck through his backswing and downswing lines and he looked incredibly cramped coming into impact- so I will reserve judgement on his swing for now!
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterChico
"I've gotten more explosive. I've gotten faster."

"I just need more reps."

Does this dweeb play the PGA Tour or in the NFL?

Oh well, It is what it is....:)
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJPB
Wait a sec here....a Big tough wannabe Navy Seal has never ever ridden a two wheeled motorized vehicle?

Oy vey....there's a word for that. Along the lines of what you'd might call a cat...
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJohnnnycz
Hard to hit anything when you hurt.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterConvert
I missed the on-site report from Dan Jenkins. Is he not attending?...
12.3.2014 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
I'm buying @Chico's assessment. But really, who cares if he hits it straight, as long as it comes in the same timezone as the fairway...the only way he wins Majors is if he sinks the putts he has missed over the past 6 years worth of Majors. His driving was impressive, but his short game was rediculous...that is what will win him more Majors. He has to regain the unshakeable belief in himself that he used to have, but no longer appears to have. Plus he has to beat better competition. I'm no Tiger worshipper, but the game is more interesting when he is in contention.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBDF
Johnnnycz, considering the fact that motorcycles are literally the most dangerous vehicles in the world, I think MAYBE he is just trying to make sure he doesnt get hurt.... nice attack though!! you totally got him!!!
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterGolfBoy
I certainly haven't been converted to a member of Red Shirt Nation but it was definitely refreshing to hear him speak the way he did. It will be interesting to see if this continues after this weekend when he isn't hosting a tournament and trying to get ROI for the sponsors. Has Vegas published odds on this yet?
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterTA
Golfboy: don't Seals run towards danger? A motorbike is pretty tame compared to military stuff i'd imagine.

Just sayin.


It's great he's back. An excuse to post more snark!! Win/win!
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJohnnnycz
@BDF -"The only way he wins Majors is if he sinks the putts he has missed over the past 6 years worth of Majors."

According to @DTF, he has six top tens over that stretch and even came within three shots of winning on one occasion!!! How can that equate to a putting problem?

Maybe @DTF can produce another quiz for us to help prove his point. Because, honestly, I don't think any of us dunderheads are getting it.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
@ADG, it's a long way from Bay Hill to Augusta
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBDF
@ GolfBoy,

The scuttlebutt has always been that the damage to his knee was not from his swing or playing golf, but from activities he was doing during his wannabe Navy Seal training. Also you have more than a few people who feel most of his aches and pains of late are more a result of over-doing it in the gym than the rigorous life of a pro golfer who plays the minimum number of events each year. So while I respect a decision to say he's scared to ride a motorbike, to frame it as an effort to not hurt himself doesn't play.

As for the rest of this overly hopeful crap about a new humble man etc. How many times do we have to go through the same thing before people realize.....oh forget it, he's back, he's humble and he's gonna break all the records.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
@DTF - Naysayers can count out Tiger at their own risk.

Is the 2014 version of Tiger the same as the 2005 version? Of course not. Is Rory McIlroy a better player now than Tiger is now? I'd say yes. Does that mean Tiger can't beat RM et al at a Major or 2 over the next few years? Sure he can, this is golf.

Many haters out there would love nothing more than to have Tiger fall off the face of the planet, or even better, to continue to play poorly so they can gleefully hate. Personally, although I am not part of the 'Red Shirt Nation' mentioned above, I would love to see him get as good as he can possibly get now and take it to the Majors. That would be fantastic for all of us here who love to watch compelling golf.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBDF
The thing I took from the Haney book is he scored well when he practiced putting but mostly he doesn't. Hard to get the enthusiasm for doing that back.

Sorry Tiger you've had one of the greatest careers in Golf, but you know you could have set THE standard.
This will eat away at whatever soul you have left after Earl did the deal with...
Welcome to an eternal hell.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBelowpar
It will be interesting to see if Tiger returns to scoring better than he hits it like he did when he was winning his majors. His short game which was once the best seemed to suffer the most when he worked with Foley. The challenge will be whether he can regain that form. I am interested to see if his golf ball will help him hit more tee shots in play. For such a storied player having so many questions to answer with a surgically repaired back will be a tough task. But if he can't putt better inside 10 feet it won't matter.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered Commentermunihack
Agree, the putting is key. But it seems to me that Tiger got confidence from his swing. Perhaps the putting suffered because he put too much pressure on his short game because he knew his long game was not up to snuff? Or mayhap he's just hit the wall and no one can make clutch putts in key moments consistently for 20 plus years (except for Jack). Who knows, but I would just like to see him healthy so that we can get a definitive answer. It will be fun to watch IF he is healthy.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterSari
Peter, as stated in the initial post -- "results in last 16 majors played".

Shivas...you know the ganja is very present in the ski culture, maybe Lindsey will get Tiger involved!
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Just in, Tiger was seen heading to the bathroom. Rex Hoggard the on course Tiger expert followed, he reported that Tiger had no problems.
Rich Lerner was beaming when he exclaimed it was just like Jack would have done it. Gary Williams and Damon Hack talked about for the first segment on Morning Drive, things went a little down hill when Charlie Rymer and Paige MacKenzie tried to recreate it on the Simulator. Matt Ginela did another segment on some of the best golf course out houses on his buddy trip, putting a plug in for Bandon Dunes to be the next great bathroom break experience to have with your buddies. Then Brandell finished up by saying Tiger had cheated using a performance laxative that should have been banned.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterA
**Update on "A's" update**

This just in... Dr Galea was seen leaving the bathroom moments before Tiger's exit. On a related note... Tiger's never looked more confident.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJupiter
This: << But Woods admitted he has never ridden one. "And even with Hero's valuable sponsorship this year and for the next three years, there's no way I'm about to start,'' Woods said, smiling. >>

So let me get this straight: Tiger Woods accepts an $8 million per year deal to endorse motorcycles and encourage people to ride but he will NEVER GET ON ONE BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO DANGEROUS? Nice.

Hell, man.... if you're this much of a money-grubbing hypocrite, why not just sign a deal to get kids to smoke Camels?
12.3.2014 | Unregistered Commenterbenseattle
@BenSeattle: EXACTLY!

That was the gist of my initial post. I apologize if it flew 30yds over the heads of all the dedicated fanboys out thar. They get blinded by starlight sometimes....or mostimes??

Fairycake might be an apropos euphemism here.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJohnnnycz
Jason Day is one of the most hyped and overrated players - before he ever left Australia.

I have never thought he was more likely to win a major than Urkel.

Seemingly in the mix, but not as close as he appears. Similar to Rickie Fowler.

McIlroy and B Watson are the only clear and present dangers heading into a major with Spieth threatening. Beyond that there are 20 players who might be able through a combination of talent and fortunate opportunity could win. That's where Woods and Day are. Beyond that, there are about 80 more golfers who could catch lightening in a bottle and luck out a victory - like your buddy Woodland.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
"Seemingly in the mix, but not as close as he appears. Similar to Rickie Fowler"

Can you explain that statement a little more in detail? Not as close as he appears? WTF?
12.3.2014 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
We won't know if he drives a Hero Motorcycle for real until he goes on an Ambien-fueled joyride while being chased by Vonn.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterTom Anderson
"Jason Day is one of the most hyped and overrated players - before he ever left Australia."

I feel certain we've agreed on at least one other thing before...but if not there is that!
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
@TomA: Ouch...bullseye right there.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJohnnnycz
Geoff...congrats on such an informative posting. You covered it so thoroughly.And...it resulted in interesting reading of comments.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered Commenternancy
I agree with BenS and Johnnycz; it's incredible that a celebrity endorser doesn't use the actual product!!! Just incredible!!!
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterHBL
He's not endorsing a product. Hero is the major sponsor of a tournament.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBrad
<< He's not endorsing a product. Hero is the major sponsor of a tournament. >> Is that right, Brad? Here's what you get when you don't read thoroughly. Read the following quotes from Hero CEO Pawan Mujal and tell me again that "he's not endorsing a product."

"We also intend to go into 50 global markets in the next couple of years and take our annual production volumes to 12 million by the year 2020, which clearly is a very large number. Taking the brand out there into new markets where Hero is not a known brand, we believe that Tiger's brand, Tiger's recognition, Tiger's attributes, will also lift and make the brand Hero as recognizable as Tiger."

Time to sit back and relax with a Camel, Brad.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered Commenterbenseattle
Those quotes sound like Mujal endorsing Tiger (specifically the strength of his brand, recognition, and attributes) rather than Tiger saying anything about motorcycles.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterCarl Peterson
BS,please show me somewhere that Tiger is accepting cheques from Hero to be a product spokesman for them.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBrad
Sorry, I missed the update from this morning, I will not relax with a Camel tho, perhaps a certain beverage that we here like to call Vitamin K
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBrad
If the Hero name is on his bag, or on his shirt, or hat or whatever, and Tiger is collecting $8 million a year from them, he is most certainly "endorsing" them. How anyone could try and debate that is remarkable.

"Michael Buteau also reported on the Hero deal that is both a personal endorsement deal and a World Challenge sponsorship, despite Tiger's best efforts to only play up the foundation portion."

Now, everyone knows that celebrity endorsements are pretty loosely given - but I 100% agree that for Tiger to come out and say that they are too dangerous for him to even once actually use the product is not something that should make Hero's folks too happy.

On the other hand, the CEO says that Tiger is " a symbol of humility in victory and grace in adversity.” (perhaps the most ludicrous statement on this subject I have ever heard" - so he clearly has lived in another world for the past 20 years when it come to Tiger.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
@BrianS

On the other hand, the CEO says that Tiger is " a symbol of humility in victory and grace in adversity.”

"perhaps the most ludicrous statement on this subject I have ever heard - so he clearly has lived in another world for the past 20 years when it come to Tiger." +10

You nailed it
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterPro from Dover
@BrianS

On the other hand, the CEO says that Tiger is " a symbol of humility in victory and grace in adversity.”

"perhaps the most ludicrous statement on this subject I have ever heard - so he clearly has lived in another world for the past 20 years when it come to Tiger." +10

You nailed it
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterPro from Dover
Blah, blah, blah.

Win, or do not win. There is no try.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterLouis Friend
Ben, why so much hostility? When I read your posts and substitute in a voice it's always like a wrestler on WWF screaming at the crowd. I worry about you bro.
12.3.2014 | Unregistered CommenterSal Bonpensiero

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