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Monday
Sep292014

Follow-Ups To Mickelson-Watson Squabbling

Tim Rosaforte, who reported being in contact via text message with Phil Mickelson Saturday night of the Ryder Cup, writes in Golf World that Mickelson learned of his Saturday afternoon benching after warming up and via text message by Captain Tom Watson.

Granted, Jose Maria Olazabal had trouble communicating such things in 2012, but the idea that Mickelson wasn't worthy of an explanation or even prepared that he might be benched all day might explain what inspired Sunday's press conference comments.

Alan Shipnuck's assessment of Watson's work in contrast to that of Paul McGinley is less than gentle.

Watson made little effort to get to know his charges or do any team building beyond a few get-off-my-lawn speeches. He was a remote and disengaged figure in the run-up to the Cup, and once the competition began, he had little understanding of how his players were feeling, physically or emotionally. (It didn’t help that two of his vice captains -- Ray Floyd, 72, and Andy North, 64 -- are decades removed from playing the Tour and the third, Steve Stricker, 47, is now a part-timer.)

While Watson’s counterpart Paul McGinley, 47, was meticulously prepared, having spent years seeking the counsel of his players over long dinners and b.s. sessions on the range, Watson seemed to be making up his pairings willy-nilly. A series of botched decisions for the Friday-afternoon foursomes had a cascading effect that led him to bench his putative team leader, Phil Mickelson, and Bradley, the guy who could have been the team’s emotional juggernaut, for both Saturday sessions. (To that point they had teamed to go 4–1 in the Ryder Cup.) These proud major champions were understandably wounded by the slight, but according to a team insider, what left them more upset was the heartless way Watson delivered the news.

Shipnuck also writes about his inability to talk to PGA of America President Ted Bishop following the press conference regarding the selection process and shares this about Watson.

A veteran of multiple U.S. teams told me in the aftermath, “A lot of s--- went on behind the scenes that people don’t know about. It will all leak out eventually. People talk about Hal Sutton and Lanny Wadkins, but Watson is going to be remembered as 10 times worse.”

John Hawkins puts Mickelson's remarks into context and believes that long term the candidness will benefit the American side.

Not only does this apply to Watson, whose shortcomings as both a captain and communicator turned PGA of America president Ted Bishop’s outside-the-box experiment into a bust, but Mickelson himself. In offering such a candid and visible assessment of the 2014 captain, Philly Mick was roasted by several prominent voices for violating the very essence of appropriate team conduct.

What happens in the team room stays in the team room, or so we’re led to believe. The funny thing about media – some of us chastise guys like Mickelson for talking out of school, then lick up every last crumb, no matter how dirty.

Some of my favorite golf journalists, including Golf Channel teammates Rex Hoggard and Tim Rosaforte, have referred to the U.S. news conference as one of the most awkward moments in Ryder Cup history, and I certainly wouldn’t disagree. It was hard to watch and impossible not to, if you know what I mean.

Perhaps it was also necessary, or at the very least, a much-needed attempt to shake up a system that has produced lousy results for far too long. Bishop chose Watson himself. Why is there no committee for such an important appointment? As I wondered here a couple of weeks ago, why are the U.S. captains’ picks made almost a month before the actual matches – before the final two FedEx Cup playoff events?

Robert Lusetich calls Mickelson's comments "a graceless mutiny of one" and feels players should not need to be invested in the matches via gimmicks like a pod system.

Mickelson -- who always needs to be the smartest guy in the room -- recounted how great Paul Azinger was as captain because he got players "invested in the process."

I could stop right there and say, if you're not invested in the process anyway, then don't play. You're representing the United States, and if you can't get up for that does it matter who captains?
Mickelson went on to say Azinger's tactic of splitting the 12 players into three pods of four -- and giving them a lot of autonomy within those groupings -- was the key.

"He had a great game plan," Mickelson said. "We use that same process in the Presidents Cup and we do really well. Unfortunately, we have strayed from a winning formula in 2008 for the last three Ryder Cups, and we need to consider maybe getting back to that formula."

In other words, Phil likes to have his voice heard, and Tom Watson didn't listen.

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Bottom line is that a Captain can get the players to the tee but the player has the responsibility to perform. The USA team was outplayed by a European team who came prepared and enthused to play. -- CommenterGDawg

Of course, but thas is EXACTLY what a really good coach/captain does for the team. They provide them with the tools to be prepared, and the make certain that they are enthusiastic about the game,

One of my favorite examples is Bill Self's pregame talk with his team in 2008 Final Four game against UNC, the great line is "You came to Kansas to play this game." No yelling, no hype.

They went out and basically blew a very good UNC team off the court in the first half, leading 40-12 after 15 minutes.

I detest Azinger's politics and the way he expresses them, but I love the way thinks about golf. Not long ago I watched him in a Golf Channel Academy with Chamblee and was again amazed at how he looks at the the game and how clearly he expresses himself.

Like him or not, you can't suggest that he comes off as anything but a good captain in this pre-cup interview from 2008 -- http://www.golfchannel.com/media/captains-challenge-paul-azinger/
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterkenoneputt
One idea: next time don't make our guys dress like this:

http://www.golfdigest.com/images/golfworld/2014-09/gwsl55-rc-wags.jpg
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterEddie Fizta
Watson has always been a pompous do-gooder who never hesitated to pontificate to the media about everything and everyone. He's been the nauseating self-professed moral high authority of the PGA for years and the sheen is starting to fade. I'm no Phil fan but he was right. Watson was one of the worst Captains in Ryder Cup history he needs to own it. Real leaders walk the walk. Clearly Watson is as phony as Phil.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJim Brown
Thanks for the "wonderful" captain's pick, Teddy Boy!

Now please go away.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterfyg
Jim I agree but Phil is not phony anymore. Tom is the worst kind of person, two faced loser, I hope never to see his face again
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterVwA3V60golferrrr
@golfboy,

Do you really think "all you Americans think he is God", when it comes to the likes of Azinger???

If you are getting that impression, you need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

A good many Americans here, including myself, think that Azinger is a self important gasbag and that his "pod" system is a joke.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterfyg
Everyone gets hung up on the word POD. Its just a way to get players to talk to one another. What is the big deal? Amazing that something so simple gets blown up to some mystical way of leading. Kinda of silly, the reactions to it.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterV60drivergolfer
The veteran texting Shipnuck must be Furyk, Zach, or a caddie.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterTighthead
Could Stricker have been the "veteran" texting Shipnick?

He was probably very frustrated too.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterEat It
I have to agree with Beaks. The behaviour of the European team and the fans was a disgrace. I am embarrassed to call myself European or even worse British. I will now go outside and shoot myself. It's the only decent thing to do.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterChico
The P.G.A. OF America should do what it does best at, folding shirts and taking tee-times. I think the tour players resent being told by a body they have nothing to do with except for the PGA Championship. They dilute the field to include club pro's who have no business playing with the big boys. In the tour players mind the Tour Championship should be a Major. Have Tim Finchum and the PGA Tour take over the Ryder Cup selection for the US team likke the Euro's team does. Have the Ryder Cup (when it's our time) held on TPC Sawegrass. How exciting would that be? But being the cash cow the Ryder Cup is, this will probably never happen.

Read more: http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/ryder-cup-phil-mickelson-tom-watson-justin-rose-rory-mcilroy-patrick-reed-tour-confidential#ixzz3EolKsXke
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterAnthony
Interesting that the news vacuum created by Tiger's absence has pivoted -- at least in the US -- to Phil, as opposed to, say, the crushingly dominant performance by the current World No.1 who looked every bit No.1 as he cruised around Gleneagles. If Tiger had put in a Sunday performance like Rory's, the world would have rocked back on its heels in awe and we wouldn't be talking about namesake Captains, we'd be speculating on how many majors he'll wrack up next year.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterRLL
Chico, I'm an American and I want to go shoot myself after reading Beak's repeated tirades about how because US saved Europe, that all sporting contest should be won by American teams :-) As if i) our RC loss ii) the public display of dirty laundry between our leading player Phil Mickelson (and according to many people out there, Arnold Palmer II) and the protector of the gentleman's game Tom Watson (who of course has no personal cross to bear), aren't enough, now we have to put up with this unruly petulant child's comments and worse, Azinger's revival. But you guys go on and enjoy your well deserved victory and we'll take care of our messy home here and we'll see you in 2 years time. BTW, if that was Fowler and Bubba Watson enjoying the celebration with the European team in their kilt and wig, then that display of true sportsmanship should make up for Beak's tirade don't you think? :-)
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenternguyenvuminh
Ah, sorry to lose you Chico, I've always enjoyed your posts.
But, I agree, duty calls (talk about taking one for the team)...
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
@Chico - there's a price to be paid for bringing in millions of pounds/dollars. A huge sporting event will always attract the drunken rabble. As much as I enjoy the Ryder Cup on TV, I'd never even think about actually being there. I'll settle for going to the Walker Cup - it's much more civilised.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterPeter Norrie
Chico, not before I pop in one day and say hello and remember something called Beaks who couldn't keep his dinner down
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterEasingwold
I'm glad Beaks is around.

What is wrong with differing views?

There can be good deal of truth at the extremes.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterfyg
Chico, you disappoint me. I figured you had already done the deed by now. Justice delayed is justice denied.

Best in the next world and all that.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterTighthead
How many pods was the European team broken into this year? What about in 2004 and 2006 when they beat us by a combined 18 points?
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterLouis Friend
Random question to the readers from Europe: How was Patrick Reed's "shhhhh" sign go over? I thought it was funny and it takes some gumption to intentionally provoke a hostile crowd.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
Steve Stricker had no expression on his face the entire time. He almost looked lost. I think poor communication and attitudes were there long before they arrived in Scotland. Waiting for sainthood for McGinley...think he deserves it.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterTee4Two
Did Tom watson get paid for this horrible terrible pathetic job that he did?
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterV60drivergolfer
I'm with FYG...if anyone thinks all Americans are in love with Azinger and want him to Captain again, they would be wrong.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterHilltop
Anyone think that if things were handled differently at the end of the PGA Championship perhaps Mickelson wouldn't have spoken out so much (essentially against the PGA of America)? Wonder how much of a grudge he still bears over the way they handled the 72nd hole at Valhalla...
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterRichie Rich
The O. Most people over here quite enjoyed PR's antics. I did. Maybe a few Telegraph readers wouldn't like it but you can't applaud Poulters eye bulging histrionics without accepting a bit in reverse. I thought the heckle was quite funny and I thought his response was appropriate! I now prepare myself for some flak!
some very interesting comments. In the UK our national sport is football[soccer) and the top clubs pay millions for players & pay them astronomic wages. However, if those players do not perform it is the Manager/coach that gets sacked. Many of the USA team win more for win each year than many of the Europeans win in a full season. Remember that Tiger wanted the players to be paid to play in the event. Perhaps that sums up the U.S. Players attitude to the event.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterKevin Shaw
Some observations, most of which I’m afraid are obvious:

1) I’m an ardent American fan, and love the Ryder Cup. Love it, win or lose.

2) Europe played well this year, got the win they deserved. Congrats! I was hoping for an American win, of course, but that would have been a mild upset, I think. Disappointed again. Is this what being a Cubs fan feels like?

3) Captains DO make a (small) difference. Ryder Cup is usually a very tight contest, and the right captain could tip it one way or another. Tom Watson made many mistakes. A better captain could/would have resulted in an American win, or perhaps closer contest.

4) Realy conflicted about the Watson vs Mickelson squabble. Could see it both ways. On the one hand, what Phil said REALLY needs to be said. On the other hand, not sure if the presser right after was the right place and time. Oh well, let’s criticize him (midly) for doing it, but praise him for taking one for he team and doing what needed to be done. Haha, talk about sitting on the fence!

5) This is purely subjective, of course, but why do some European players get on my nerve with the way they celebrate after big putts, like Sergio? Graeme McDowell is extremely competive, pumps his fist after big puts, but somehow I admire him (“well played!”) when I see that, but not others? Justin Rose is getting closer to Sergio territory for me on the green, but is very classy and gracious in interviews off the green. Weird, how these things appear to me personally.

6) Paul McGinley is first class, from beginning to end. What a gentleman. Happy for him.

7) Sad to see things like religion and politics on this golf blog. I am as non-religious as you can get, but I see some anti-religion bigots here.

8) Can’t wait till 2016!
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBogeyDude
O, personally, I got to like Reed. His "top 5" remark was a bit much, but I understood what he was trying to say.

He had a great debut and I liked the way he mixed it with our lot over here. It would really be good if Reed, Speith and Fowler popped over now and then to play in a few Euro events. Not only would it do their games good, the fans here would love them, not to mention show up the old gaurd in the USA who can't be bothered to fly over a few hours to get here.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterEasingwold
@ Chico the wise - sorry to see you go. Should you return from the better world and have time between Bible meetings with Zack and Bernhardt, there's a cash and drinks scratch game for you any time you're in London.

@The O (I liked your "Story" by the way) Patrick Reed? Bloody good player, and what a team with Spieth! (Another lapse by Watson not to be on hand to give a quick "chin up" to him during the singles because this excellent golfer is known to have the occasional mid-round wobble - but I digress).

Reed's parody of Poulter was excellent. I am old school as far as needle and fist-clenching go; I think it's for kids, and real hard cases like Hogan or Nicklaus do their competing with balls and clubs (and with a smile whenever possible). But of course Reed IS a kid. He's a bit American, if you know what I mean. But then, he IS American. And I don't mind him saying he's top 5 - the problem is declaring that he's worked harder than the others to get there, which is patent crap and insulting to the others. But he's good. And a threat to the Euro team. Maybe we need some of those "hit it here Fats" signs that Arnie's Army had for Jack... all in good taste and the spirit of international brotherhood, of course.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterHB
Hey KLG and Pasa, What do you guys think of Mickelson flying over by himself? Would Azinger support that move? What if Tiger was on the team and he wanted to fly over in his jet? Sure doesn't seem like the "team" military pod system that I've read about. Do you think that caused any tension before play even began? Should it have caused any tension or is that something that maybe Rory or Sergio would do to his teammates as well? You guys like Phil, do not like Watson, and that's what you're basing your opinion on. I cannot even imagine an individual making one of these teams and then asking or telling their captain they are flying over the pond solo.
Sorry, Luther, but you're mistaken, at least as far as I'm concerned. Can't speak for Mr. Ghost. I was pumped as hell when TW was annointed Captain since I've been a fan of his since his Stanford days, through his discovery of links golf with close friend Sandy Tatum, a true gentleman, and his resignation from that KC golf club that wouldn't admit Jews. As for FIGJAM, much less so. By the end of Sunday's presser, however, my view as to both had changed. And that change was based entirely on what happened at Gleneagles. Sorry to scuttle your premise.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterPasaplayer
Lots of comments on which player thought they should be paid to play in the Ryder Cup....seems to me it was golf's answer to Gandhi, Payne Stewart who first broached that subject back in the day.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterHilltop
Geoff, fair roundup except you misrepresent the Rosaforte story. He wrote they "argued heatedly about it until Watson ULTIMATELY (my emphasis) texted Mickelson to tell him he was sitting". That is completely consistent with what Watson and Mickelson said -- he told him in person at lunch (and they probably argued about it) and then Mickelson made a final plea to play via text and Watson replied to that. You make it sound like he didn't tell him initially in person. But that's not the case .. and not what Rosaforte reports.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterthetl
@thetl. - Agree with your take on the course of events. One to add was that Watson was quoted on Friday night that Phil and Keegan would be sitting out in the AM, but that he would get them out there - "Maybe not together" in the afternoon. based on this, they appear to have warmed up - until getting the word at lunch. I do think it would be ok for Watson to change his mind (not that it was right - Walker obviously had to rest, and Fowler was getting worse as the am wre on), but in that case inthinkmhe especially owed Phil and Keegan a better explanation/ justification for benching them.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
Luther, I can't say that it makes any difference whatsoever to me. I spent most of the last half of the 1990s in Baltimore. The random locals I played golf with at Mt. Pleasant (site of The King's first TOUR win on American soil) were perpetually exercised that Cal Ripken (was said to have) traveled separately from the rest of Dem O's. I doubt the other Orioles cared one way or another. Ripken was by most public accounts an excellent teammate. As is Phil, from most public accounts and from what I have seen. It never looked to me that Watson was high on the team-building thing. His choice of Assistant Captains is a clear indication of that, as I noted before in a previous thread. Especially compared with those on the other side, who live and breathe this stuff. But it isn't clear to me that we have the equivalent of Harrington, The Most Interesting Man in the World, JMO, and Sam Torrance though. So they do have that going for them, and we don't.

I should add that my golf course companions were also happy that Art Modell stole away from Cleveland with the original Browns, who became the Ravens. When I pointed out that Modell did to Cleveland exactly what Irsay did to Baltimore, things got quiet. Life is strange. I should add that the most significant encounter I had during my time in Charm City was coming face to face with John Unitas one evening outside the lacrosse field on the Johns Hopkins campus. Much more interesting than the occasional Nobel Prize winner in the hall. But then, I cannot bring myself to say Indianapolis and Colts in the same sentence ;-)
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
Oops. One more thing, Luther. Accidentally removed this in a cut/paste job: I have been both a Watson and Mickelson fan over the years. I pretty much remain so. Based on what I know from reading about this Game, I think I would enjoy a round with each of them, but maybe not at the same time, now. Only the densest of my friends would not recognize certain affinities I might have with each :-))
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
Thanks to those who responded. Yes, it is Reed's overt "American-ness" that made me wonder how it went over. These events are, obviously unique. You don't cheer missed putts except in these things. They are sporting events, not golf events. Have fun with it.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
I fully agree he should have said something like "I'm planning to play you in the afternoon, but it could change based on the morning". He did a poor job of communicating his rationale for various moves in the Day 1 and 2 press conferences (and it reasons that carried over with his communication to the players). One can question some of the decisions, but they weren't implausible. In that particular case, I'm guessing he initially planned to play them in some form in the afternoon. But Furyk/Mahan won their AM match in a rout (4&3), Zach Johnson was undoubtedly going to play after going only once prior to that, and Kuchar played phenomenally in the AM (he and Bubba were 9 under thru 16, but unfortunately played a team that probably put on the best 4 ball performance ever in the RC). So he went with them over Phil/Keegan who obviously played poorly in Alt Shot the day before. So then it came down to Rickie/Walker and in retrospect Watson admitted he probably should have sat them (and would have played Phil/Keegan instead). But he had to make that judgment when they were still playing -- were playing great and had just gone 1 up - so it was hard to pull them at that point. But again, he admitted he probably should have.

So I don't disagree. But the key point is this makes it sound like he didn't have the decency to tell Phil in person. But he absolutely did.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterthetl
@BrianS - I fully agree he should have said something like "I'm planning to play you in the afternoon, but it could change based on the morning". He did a poor job of communicating his rationale for various moves in the Day 1 and 2 press conferences (and it reasons that carried over with his communication to the players). One can question some of the decisions, but they weren't implausible. In that particular case, I'm guessing he initially planned to play them in some form in the afternoon. But Furyk/Mahan won their AM match in a rout (4&3), Zach Johnson was undoubtedly going to play after going only once prior to that, and Kuchar played phenomenally in the AM (he and Bubba were 9 under thru 16, but unfortunately played a team that probably put on the best 4 ball performance ever in the RC). So he went with them over Phil/Keegan who obviously played poorly in Alt Shot the day before. So then it came down to Rickie/Walker and in retrospect Watson admitted he probably should have sat them (and would have played Phil/Keegan instead). But he had to make that judgment when they were still playing -- were playing great and had just gone 1 up - so it was hard to pull them at that point. But again, he admitted he probably should have.

So I don't disagree. But the key point is this makes it sound like he didn't have the decency to tell Phil in person. But he absolutely did.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterthetl
Chico- Adios, I guess; but before you go, just repeat one of these phrases over and over

''It's just a game''

or

''It's only a movie''
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth

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