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Monday
Sep292014

Follow-Ups To Mickelson-Watson Squabbling

Tim Rosaforte, who reported being in contact via text message with Phil Mickelson Saturday night of the Ryder Cup, writes in Golf World that Mickelson learned of his Saturday afternoon benching after warming up and via text message by Captain Tom Watson.

Granted, Jose Maria Olazabal had trouble communicating such things in 2012, but the idea that Mickelson wasn't worthy of an explanation or even prepared that he might be benched all day might explain what inspired Sunday's press conference comments.

Alan Shipnuck's assessment of Watson's work in contrast to that of Paul McGinley is less than gentle.

Watson made little effort to get to know his charges or do any team building beyond a few get-off-my-lawn speeches. He was a remote and disengaged figure in the run-up to the Cup, and once the competition began, he had little understanding of how his players were feeling, physically or emotionally. (It didn’t help that two of his vice captains -- Ray Floyd, 72, and Andy North, 64 -- are decades removed from playing the Tour and the third, Steve Stricker, 47, is now a part-timer.)

While Watson’s counterpart Paul McGinley, 47, was meticulously prepared, having spent years seeking the counsel of his players over long dinners and b.s. sessions on the range, Watson seemed to be making up his pairings willy-nilly. A series of botched decisions for the Friday-afternoon foursomes had a cascading effect that led him to bench his putative team leader, Phil Mickelson, and Bradley, the guy who could have been the team’s emotional juggernaut, for both Saturday sessions. (To that point they had teamed to go 4–1 in the Ryder Cup.) These proud major champions were understandably wounded by the slight, but according to a team insider, what left them more upset was the heartless way Watson delivered the news.

Shipnuck also writes about his inability to talk to PGA of America President Ted Bishop following the press conference regarding the selection process and shares this about Watson.

A veteran of multiple U.S. teams told me in the aftermath, “A lot of s--- went on behind the scenes that people don’t know about. It will all leak out eventually. People talk about Hal Sutton and Lanny Wadkins, but Watson is going to be remembered as 10 times worse.”

John Hawkins puts Mickelson's remarks into context and believes that long term the candidness will benefit the American side.

Not only does this apply to Watson, whose shortcomings as both a captain and communicator turned PGA of America president Ted Bishop’s outside-the-box experiment into a bust, but Mickelson himself. In offering such a candid and visible assessment of the 2014 captain, Philly Mick was roasted by several prominent voices for violating the very essence of appropriate team conduct.

What happens in the team room stays in the team room, or so we’re led to believe. The funny thing about media – some of us chastise guys like Mickelson for talking out of school, then lick up every last crumb, no matter how dirty.

Some of my favorite golf journalists, including Golf Channel teammates Rex Hoggard and Tim Rosaforte, have referred to the U.S. news conference as one of the most awkward moments in Ryder Cup history, and I certainly wouldn’t disagree. It was hard to watch and impossible not to, if you know what I mean.

Perhaps it was also necessary, or at the very least, a much-needed attempt to shake up a system that has produced lousy results for far too long. Bishop chose Watson himself. Why is there no committee for such an important appointment? As I wondered here a couple of weeks ago, why are the U.S. captains’ picks made almost a month before the actual matches – before the final two FedEx Cup playoff events?

Robert Lusetich calls Mickelson's comments "a graceless mutiny of one" and feels players should not need to be invested in the matches via gimmicks like a pod system.

Mickelson -- who always needs to be the smartest guy in the room -- recounted how great Paul Azinger was as captain because he got players "invested in the process."

I could stop right there and say, if you're not invested in the process anyway, then don't play. You're representing the United States, and if you can't get up for that does it matter who captains?
Mickelson went on to say Azinger's tactic of splitting the 12 players into three pods of four -- and giving them a lot of autonomy within those groupings -- was the key.

"He had a great game plan," Mickelson said. "We use that same process in the Presidents Cup and we do really well. Unfortunately, we have strayed from a winning formula in 2008 for the last three Ryder Cups, and we need to consider maybe getting back to that formula."

In other words, Phil likes to have his voice heard, and Tom Watson didn't listen.

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Phil answered a question "what went wrong?" honestly. Phil said how good he thought Azinger's strategy was in 2008. The inference, get it , inference from what Phil said, is that he preferred Azinger's strategy to Watson's. No insult just the truth as he saw it.
For the information of Robert Lusetich, who must be a big Watson fan or very anti Phil, "invested in the process" means being involved with, and knowing the background and reasons for, decisions as they are made by the captain. Not being texted "you're not playing".
I look forward to hearing what the "behind the scenes" discussions were. I bet it was Jim Furyk who said that. He said the word shit in the news conference and he is a "veteran of many Ryder Cup teams". It wasn't Phil. Had to be Jim.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBen
1. What would the Ryder Cup be without off-the-course drama, second guessing of captains or domination by the non-American team? I guess it would be the President's Cup, pretty much. We Americans have been bitching about the Ryder Cup since 1995, when Curtis Strange was picked and stunk it up. Minus 1999 and 2008, it's a biannual tradition to second guess and wonder why we can't beat the Europeans. In other words, it's probably what makes the Ryder Cup appealing. If we dominated the Ryder Cup, it would turn into the President's Cup or USA Basketball, and interest in the Ryder Cup would drop big-time.

2. Great players don't necessarily make great coaches. It's true in all sports, and golf is no exception. Kareem Abdul Jabar is the NBA's all-time leading scorer, but he's never been able to land a significant head coaching job, because he comes off as aloof with poor communication skills. Magic Johnson is arguably the greatest point guard of all-time, and didn't fare well as a coach. I doubt Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant would ever be able to successfully coach a team. Mike Krzyzewski rode the pine at basketball powerhouse West Point and went on to become one of the most successful basketball coaches in history. Paul Azinger had a fine career, but of course isn't in the same stratosphere as Tom Watson, a Hall of Famer and multiple major winner. But Azinger possesses organizational skills, is a top-notch communicator and is a natural leader.

3. Speaking of coaches, perhaps they should call the next Ryder Cup captain "Coach" instead of "Captain." When you throw the word "Coach" in front of a name, it brings things to light. Knowing Tom Watson's personality and backstory, referring to him as "Coach Watson" sounds like whoever picked him to lead make a mistake in doing so. Referring to him as "Captain Watson" somehow veils his inadequacies. A captain is a guy who flies whatever commercial airliner you're on, and you never see his face. A coach is someone you revere, someone you expect to lead.

4. Europe has less pressure than the Americans, because they're a collection of various and separate countries. If you're on Team Europe, you don't have to hear the body of land you're representing hype up a three-day event for two straight years. If you're on Team Europe and fall short (like in 2008), you don't have to go back to Europe and turn on your TV and hear how you choked or hear people second guess you – rather, you go back to your country (i.e. Germany or Spain) and you can blame Ireland, Scotland or France for dropping the ball. (In actuality, if you're on Team Europe, you're probably going back to Florida after the event. Players on Team USA don't have the pleasure of heading back home to Liverpool.)

5. Speaking of separate countries, if the opposing team to Team USA gets an entire continent to work with, so should the Americans. It should be continent versus continent, not continent versus country. It should be Europe versus North America. Sure, there's only one player from the rest of the continent (outside of America) currently ranked in the Top 50 in the world (Graham Delaet), but in the event that there's ever a male Lorena Ochoa or another circa-2003 Mike Weir, the Americans might be able to scrounge up another half a point.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterRJ Dixon
Wish one of these hindsight specialists had written their "blow it up" analysis before the event started. Meanwhile, didn't Bishop do just that, breaking the model in choosing Watson?
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterConvert
As a golfer, I always thought a lot of Phil. Well spoken, courteous, friendly kind of guy as he came across to me through the lens of the media. And I had a chance to follow him at TPC Boston. He was engaging with fans and never stopped talking to fellow players, caddies and fans. He even stopped for a photo during the round with a bunch of young college students on the 6th tee. A great ambassador for the tour and the game.

I am having a very hard time not changing my mind about him because of the way he threw Tom under the bus in such a public way. He owes Tom, the Tour and the team an apology.

And the way Tom has handled it just confirms the respect and admiration that he has earned...winning and losing with grace and respect....a quality his generation of golfers has failed to pass on to the present generation...of golfers, media or fans.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commentermulligan
"Pods" are fine if you are a dolphin or in Apple product development (remember the now defunct iPod? Bet you do.) but Phil is way off base on this issue. He needs to stick with what he is great at, namely, lob wedges and perfectly timed trades in the stock market, and show a bit more respect for Dear Leader.
OK, I've said my piece.
4PA (F3PA)
Mr Dixon
Concerning #5, you better check with Canada first. I am not sure Canada would jump at the opportunity to join.

Instead of players taking responsibility for their poor play or blaming the captain, I am sure it would be just be more "blame Canada".
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commentermulligan
I'm with Colin on this. Phil offered a coherent explanation for what was different between the most recent winning team and the past two, and made a case for taking another look at '08 in anticipation of '16. Nothing wrong with what he said or when he said it -- what was he supposed to do, wait until Doral and then be slammed for not being willing to say it to Tom Watson's face? Or say nothing and 'work behind the scenes' so that two years from now stories come out about how Phil had spent that time ripping the '14 captaincy? From a PR or PC point of view Mickleson faced a no-win proposition and chose the most upfront way of proceeding. That takes guts.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterF. X. Flinn
There is a simple solution to this for the USA: get some better players.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Campbell
Who's going to get Bishop to change the process?
Hey, btw. Can we get rid of Michael Jordan? Why is he skating by? Seriously, I'll tell him he's done just get me his number. While I'm at it he was ducking Hakeem's best Rockets teams hiding in minor league baseball.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterRon
There were obviously some major issues and I am one who is looking forward to hearing all about them in the coming months, this is good stuff. But still, the press conference shortly after the event was not the place, regardless of whether he was asked the question or not. I keep hearing that statement, "He was just answering the question..." I know the guy had to be really frustrated, but just not the place. No different than an NFL player blasting his coach at the post game presser...you don't do it and a GM would not tolerate it. I'm still a fan of both guys.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
phil was asked what worked in 08 and hasn't worked since. he gave a thoughtful, constructive reply about a process and formula that he believes works. made sense. he sold me.

what in god's name should he apologize for?
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commentergrr
grr. - I'm not sure anyone would be able to explain it to you.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterRon
@mulligan did you miss the part where Tom said his players weren't in good enough shape? Or the continual throwing them under the bus all weekend? Or the fact that Tom has publicly called people out his entire career (Player, McCord, Tiger etc)?

Coach's do make a difference, system makes a difference, & they allow players to play their best. Players can of course overcome disadvantages, but that Europe team was stacked enoug already, they didn't need the help.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterElf
I'm with F.X. and the others with a similar take. Yes, this was a setup from the beginning. But. Exactly when would it have been "appropriate" for Phil to answer the question? Off the record? The Friday after Thanksgiving? And of the 11 players, only Phil could have answered the question. Watson captained the team like Maury Wills managed during his (very) short tenure in that position. Sitting Spieth and Reed when they were blazing and keeping Phil and Keegan off the course all day on Saturday were the equivalent of calling for a relief pitcher when you forgot to have one ready in the bullpen.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
lets not get distracted - watson may have made mistakes as captain - but Phil has ruined the USA team spirit for years and is obviously an A-hole. Ask Jose - you cant win without team spirit.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterbruce
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09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
The funny thing is, if the roles had been reversed and Europe lost, they wouldn't be engaged in this self-examination today. They'd be lashing out. They'd blame the loss on some American's fist-pumping, or the champagne cork rudely being popped on the 17th green or the yob who heckled Patrick Reed. This is the fundamental difference between Britain and America. We let stuff slide that they'd have an aneurysm about. Geoff said this on Golf Channel and he was 1000% correct. This needs greater exploration though. Perhaps a psychiatrist can explain Britain's mentality. I'm guessing it's a combination of jealousy and post-traumatic stress syndrome from childhood bullying. Thoughts?
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterflies with beaks
Put the blame on Ted Bishop who clearly picked Watson to be captain to make Ted's term as PGA Prez that much more in focus. Bishop is all about himself and wanting the spotlight. Just look at his track record with respect to any of his comments/tweets since he has been in office, and his Fowler-like haircut he proudly tweeted from Gleneagles -- it all defines a megalomaniac. As long as these "temporary officers" have the power to continue to rule the US side of the RC, don't expect any changes!
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterbayhill bogey
Europeans rose up to the challenge of mighty team USA 30 years ago. They worked hard, traveled all over the world, became great players, grateful of their success against the best.

In that time, America had Tiger and Phil covering up the cracks with their stellar golf, with the rest of the nation happy to be in their considerable wake. Now some of them complain about time zones if they have to fly to the Open over here, miss their family, while the Europeans have to leave home to compete in the States where 3 of the 4 majors are played, most of the big ranking events are. But they don't complain, they get on with it.

Is it any wonder Team USA have lost 8 out of the last 10 Ryder cups ?
Frankly, I'm not that surprised anymore.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterEasingwold
Telling that so much of the controversy has revolved around text messages. Webb begging for a captain's pick at 3am. Watson and Phil texting back and forth about whether the latter would play. Seems like Watson had no intention of picking Webb, and then felt burned that Webb stunk it up in Friday morning four-ball; hence the Saturday benching. Anyone have insight whether Phil and Keegan were already locked in to play Friday foursomes? Seems like Watson felt burned again when they got smoked; hence the Saturday benching. Vindication is not a good coaching character trait.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJH
Further on my texting point: unbelievable (or maybe not) how much the U.S. players were using their IPhones during ceremony, play, press conference, etc. The next captain might want to emphasize face-to-face communication, and ask the players to save the endless tweeting and selfies for off hours. I was at a restaurant with my family Sunday and the two adjacent tables (young couple, family of four) were on their Iphones the entire dinner. I joked with my wife, "we're not perfect but at least we talk to each other." -grumpy old man
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJH
Grr & Ron, PM's criticism would hold a lot more water had he said it after the loss in 2010 or 2012, not after he has had the worst season of his career and was throwing someone he never sees except at the Masters under the bus. If he hadn't been "tired" in 2012, would the US have won? He is, after all, throwing DL3 under as well by the logic he is using...even tough they were up 10-4 at one point in that event.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBDF
Honest answer to an honest question. Not the place? So you would prefer a bland, off-topic endorsement of a team and a Captain that had obvious issues and serious management problems. No thank you. Phil said what needed to be said, and he said it in as respectful a manner as possible. Those bitching about his response now would likely think him a back-stabber or coward if his views had been expressed later without Watson present. Watson, however, tried to deflect his extremely poor decision-making by referring to his assistant captains' role, saying he consulted with them on his obviously wrong choices. Really? And, if so, did those guys agree, push back, or just defer to Tom Terrific? Inquiring minds await "the truth".
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterPasaplayer
Watson is my all time favorite since I was a kid but let's face facts here -- he completely screwed the pooch on so many aspects of this event. Phil strikes me as one of those passive/agressive types where you never know what he's doing behind the scenes, but here he was asked a question and answered it honestly. The responsibility of the captain is to build a team, not just write down a bunch of pairings, say "Go get 'em boys" and throw the players under the bus for not playing well, which is exactly what Watson did.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterlilkeysdad
As I said in a post on Azinger as captain again the Euros seem to get the small stuf right and this allows their team to play with full confidence. The U.S. seems tight at the RC and loose at the PC where the same players seem to play much better. It makes sense to seek the opinion of the players who have the most experience what issues cause this. Because the results now are almost a forgone conclusion. Both sides "know" the Euros are going to win. That being said and opinions being sent all over the internet I don't expect much to change...
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commentermunihack
Isn't there the tale of Monty once whining in the locker room about crappy tee times and Phil Mickelson left a note that said "Play better ".
Hey Phil....Want to win the Ryder Cup? How about you and your team.....Play Better!
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterTrysil
Go ahead and make Azinger captian.. see what happens.

The guy wins 1 Ryder Cup (on home soil) and all you Americans think he's God!

Sure he may have a good system or whatever, but he already cashed in on his experience and wrote a book about it. All of the Euro captains and players read the book which renders the contents quite useless now.... The PGA should take this as a sign that Azinger has moved on.... How could you not?
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commentergolfboy
Everyone who is criticizing the question needs to take a look at what Phil did in his on-course interview with Steve Sands.

Sands asked Phil "Do you think there's a formula perhaps missing for the United States side that the Europeans have found here in the last five or ten Ryder Cups?"

Phil said, "Yes."

Sands asked him to elaborate and Phil at first demurred and then talked about Zinger's formula pretty much like he did in the press conference, including asking why "...we don't revisit that?"

It's pretty clear that the press conference question was a followup on those comments. Surely no one can expect a room full of journalists to let THAT go without a followup?

I replayed it last night, (it happens at about 5:53 in Sunday's broadcast) and I thought Sands was almost dumbstruck when Phil said "Yes" so emphatically. But now I'm wondering if Phil hadn't been talking about it and Sands knew he wanted to get it out.

Phil has long been a master at making the calculated statement to stir the pot and/or get what he wants. Sometimes it comes out as an outrageous statement.

One of my favorites was when he was pissed about Condition of Competition regarding grooves, and the fact that the USGA was still forced to allow original Eye2 grooves as part of its court settlement with Ping.

So when he showed up in Phoenix that January, instead of wedges with new grooves, he had his old Ping wedges. And he got what he wanted, he made everyone look stupid, and in the end only John Solheim bailed out the USGA by agreeing to let them ignore the dea they made with his dad,

FWIW, I think Karsten might have disowned the kid if he'd still been around. For all his quirks, one thing Karsten was emphatic about was ensuring that his customers didn't have to dump their Ping equipment because someone changed the rules on them.

K1P
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterkenoneputt
Anyone who continues to support Watson is lame and sheepish. Brandel chamblee needs to apologize to Phil, BC needs to stop shouting his mouth off before he knows the facts. Plus what Phil said was honest answer to a question that was asked. If you think that was throwing Watson under the bus you are either stupid or have the feelings if a 10 yr old girl, grow some boys.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterVwA3V60golferrrr
I find all of this navel-gazing interesting. Bottom line is that a Captain can get the players to the tee but the player has the responsibility to perform. The USA team was outplayed by a European team who came prepared and enthused to play.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterGDawg
Poor old Tom! If only he'd been made General instead of Captain, he could have stayed at home and sent text messages from there! The fact that he said "they" weren't good enough and "they" have to find a way to play better, is very telling.

I'm a bit of a dinosaur, but I can almost understand kids' fascination with sending text messages. But why adults can't pick up the phone and talk to one another is beyond me.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterPeter Norrie
New system? How about hiring a "coach", maybe a well regarded college golf coach, whose full time job is learning the players, meeting the players, talking, b.s.ing, cajoling, threatening, whatever. As pointed out, great players don't necessarily make great coaches.

And get rid of that god awful "Captain" title for a nonplaying leader. When the "Captain" of the team was a player it made sense, now it's an empty title. The U.S. team needs a coach, not a swing coach, but a team coach.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterHBL
What worked in 2008 was that Europe had Sir Nick Faldo as their Captain.
Watson leaking the text plea from Mickelson and Bradley trying to make the team on Saturday afternoon. That wasn't very classy either.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commentersiguez
Golly good gracious me! Someone needs to get the smelling salts and take to the fainting couch. The media's just all a-twitter (in the old sense of that word as well) about what Phil said to Tom, and that just can't be! Incivility! Oh, my my!

I can imagine all this being said in the breathless, high-pitched voice of Sen. Huckleberry Graham of the great state of SC being interviewed by Rosaforte. I am guessing that Old Tom has dealt with tougher opponents and questioners than Phil, maybe back in the first marriage days. I'm still of the camp that Phil didn't say enough.

Also agree with the comments above about using a phone for its intended purpose at times, instead of as a text machine, especially when you are giving bad news to a friend or teammate. You don't have to be like that "Good news, bad news" FedEx boss in the commercial if you are an actual leader.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterRickABQ
The PGA tour will never allow for a credible World tour to emerge like what is done in tennis. That is understandable yet sad for the rest of the world. The WGC events were supposed to be staged throughout the world as a way to defuse the increasing demand and push for a World tour in golf. Today, all but one WGC events are played in the US and 3 out of the 4 majors (which are the ultimate yardstick of golf greatness for US observers of the game) are on US soil. US wins account for 70%, 80% and 78% of total wins at the Masters, the US open and the USPGA respectively post WWII. At the British open however, US wins account for a significantly lower 45% of total wins since 1946. Home advantage is thus a big plus and US golfers are, by design of the golf calendar and the world ranking points, slightly favoured to be more numerous and successful in majors and WGC events than non US golfers, and thus to carry a better world ranking.

Let's start by having the WGC events outside of the States, and two majors out of four outside of the States (Although the USPGA carries one of the most kick-a$$ trophy in professional golf, it is simply a glorified PGA tour event that could easily go global as half suggested by the PGA of America).

We would then have a better idea on how really good US golfers are versus non-US golfers at present. Then we will be able to see if it is reasonable to expect the US to win 50% of the Ryder Cup matches in its post-1979 format as opposed to losing 3 in 4 as it is the case in the last 20 years.

Maybe the problem causing the US to regularly lose the Ryder Cup is not one of using a wrong template, but one of using the wrong yardstick to value greatness in golf that make US golfers look better than they really are.

In my view, once global US players like Peter Uhlein and Brooks Koepka start making the US Ryder Cup team, then the US will stand a greater chance to win one in two.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commentersiguez
Looking ahead to '16, Euro has five locks in Rory, Rose, Stenson, Kaymar, and Sergio (the first two more so than the latter three, but still). Who are the U.S. locks? Too early to include Spieth and Reed as locks on points. Walker may disappear after this year. I love Fowler, but am not sold. The only two I can think of are Mr. Consistency (Kuch) and Bubba. Part of the next captain's game plan must include figuring out how to get those two to be more engaged and use their talents to earn points. Kuch is a great match play player -- there's no way he should lose two points to Westwood/Donaldson, no matter who his partner is. That's a four point swing for a team that lost by five points.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJH
The time for Phil to speak up was after his Friday morning match. Spieth and Reed played well Friday morning and they were raring to go back out in the afternoon. Even Phil's coach, Butch Harmon, said Phil looked like he was out of gas. Watson went whit his heart. He should have gone with Harmon's brain. Phil could have helped him do that. And he didn't.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterMark
Again, while I agreed with PM, it may have been a better thing to wait on his comments; but he just answered the question, and he DID NOT throw Watson under the bus.

Watson may have done his best, but he made some very poor decisions, and if his co pilots were egging him on, they deserve to be lambasted.

Yes, play better is the real answer; biut if you are not playing you cannottt play btter.

the 2 you Texans were rested with a short Friday mornng, and were sat down, and from there it was all downhill, and not in a good way.

Again, much credit must be given to the Euros who played great--butt a putt here and there would have made the points come out the other way, and everyone can easily see that.

It was good to see Sergio playing well again, and lastly. Simpson should consider the walk of shame if he has any integrity at all.

and to those who dissed PM for not riding the ''team plane''-- he was already in Europe- was he supposed to fly back to the US to fly back to Scotlland? Get real.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
These guys text each other...geez

Texting is for school girls.
09.30.2014 | Unregistered CommenterDirtclod

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