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Sunday
Jul192015

"If the powers that be do not stop the golf ball arms race...you can say goodbye to the glory that is the Old Course at St. Andrews."

The technophobic agenda is running rampant here in St. Andrews as not only was I able to point out for Golf World that Saturday's wind-fueled fiasco has strong roots in regulatory cowardice and vision, but the chorus has been joined by Joe Posnanski at GolfChannel.com.

Posnanski made the connection between greens just a bit too fast for the slopes and wind which, rumor has it, sometimes blows here. Three straight majors and the folks in charge still stick to the same old speed. Cue that Einstein bro, he was on to something.

Posnanski considered the same thing I did: was play halted at the various nearby courses. Of course not.

He writes:

Companies fully understand that there are too many people out there willing to pay for longer golf balls. They will find ways to cut drag, to enhance lift, to defy gravity — or whatever else they can do to get a little bit more golf ball air.

And it will be up to the R&A and USGA to act and not just talk. Conditions are expected to be pretty mild on Sunday, which could mean it will be a shootout. Dustin Johnson and Jason Day and other long hitters will be hitting little wedges into holes. Guys will be driving par 4s. We could watch player after player overwhelm a defenseless St. Andrews.

And it comes back to Jack Nicklaus again. He has been warning about this possibility for years. Maybe St. Andrews can hold up now, but what about in five years? What about in 10? Everyone wants to see the Open Championship at St. Andrews. Everyone also wants to hit their drives farther. And, for the people who run golf, a choice will have to be made.

Beyond the usual stuff about the entire integrity and soul of the game being put at risk, there's another component in this as it relates to Jordan Spieth's historic quest. This in no way is meant to take away from Dustin Johnson's 36-hole position or use of his immense talent. But it's becoming apparent that he's using extreme distance versus to take most of the design elements out of play, as Graeme McDowell had predicted would be a key this week (Phil Casey's report here).

And I go back to this from Spieth from his post-first round press conference, a telling (and in no way bitter) statement about realizing he's got to be perfect to overcome DJ's advantage:

I saw a 65 in our group, and if D.J. keeps driving it the way he is, then I'm going to have to play my best golf to have a chance. It's hard to argue with somebody who's splitting bunkers at about 380 yards and just two-putting for birdie on five or six of the holes when there's only two par-5s. I don't have that in the bag, so I've got to make up for it with ball-striking.

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As I am currently reading "The Future of Golf" by a Mr. G. Shackelford I feel as if I am in a time warp between 2005 (the date of the book's release) and this weekend with The Open at St Andrews. As is stated so bluntly in the book, how do you defend a course against the on-slaught of technology? Well stretch it out as far as a rubber band, speed up the greens to a micron of their lives, and grow US Open style rough and/or grow trees to block creativity and recovery. So what do we have here, greens cut too short with the obligatory windy conditions that you pray for to keep the bastards honest and the scores high. So 10 years have passed, or should we say 80 years since the architects raised their concern over the length of the modern ball, and the R & A and the USGA and Augusta etc al have done zilch to contain the ball, the massive driver heads, the explosive and lightweight materials, so to make the great courses relevant we get 5 day events, and a wet and vulnerable course to length and spin. Surely even a 36 hole Sunday could have made things a challenge and of interest, just like in the days of Gary Player etc when a player could rise from the depths and win from seemingly nowhere.
Your honour, I rest my case.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterMango Maguire
The local courses not being shut isn't really relevant. Ball would have been blowing around on the greens at Kingsbarns and Crail etc but they would have just carried on playing. They weren't hosting a major. I do agree though that fast greens and links courses a a recipe for problems. I also really agree with the question what happens in 5 or 10 years? Anyone who thinks this is flat-lining is deluded! Things will only get worse.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterChico
Let's just hope Posnanski will be as passionate advocating for bifurcation in golf equipment as he was for smart baseball analysis. Golf could do with a Moneyball, a FireJoeMorgan, a Nate Silver.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered Commenterfreshfrankie
You must be out of your tree, Mango. 36 holes in one day - but, but, but what about everyone's routine... need an hour just to talk to the backswing coach... I think you could do 36, but how about a shotgun start. Two five hour rounds, and done by half six. Simples. Seems every other tradition is open for debate these days...
Geoff - this piece from Frank Hannigan in 1995 says it all.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11rzWABoU6yOHRI6kAL3DX_LW8LJM2_tfIROfl-Aw0sY/pub
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterPlay It Forward
Power should be an advantage though. Always has been, always will.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterSari
Hmm...limit the number of dimples on a golf ball? Regulate the loft and flex of the driver? Compression levels of the ball?

Or we could just let them tear it up?...I believe if the course was dry and firm, the scores wouldn't be nearly as low as is anyway. Wet makes it play very easy.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterN Johnson
This all could be solved with minimum spin requirement. Robot testing by R&A and USGA could have a 2 degree open and 2 degree closed standard driver setup and if the the side spin does not meet a minimum number the ball would be illegal.

You could swing as hard as you want, but the risk for a less than perfectly struck shot would be once again be OB. Perfectly struck shots would still fly a mile, but the renewed fear of a slicing /hooking shot would change behavior - lower swing speeds. Player's driver swings are now violent rotations that were not seen pre1990 due to reduced side spin. Players bomb and gauge today because they can with little risk. I learned to play with clubs (persimmon) that demanded you be in control.

Manufacturers could still claim their balls are as long as ever (perfectly struck) but golf distance and behavior would both change with old side spin levels.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterStephenP
Just an aside, but if you took 30 yards off the ball.... DJ would still be bombing it and Jordan would still be working it.
Forget how far the damn thing goes.... put the spin back on it. That fixes half the problems in a heartbeat.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered Commentermetro18
Rollback will never happen!

Follow the money. Equipment companies make their money by selling dreams to choppers.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterBud
Nice idea, StephenP. I like it.

And yes, Geoff, it's a shame not to see Jordan demonstrating his skills in the wind, and pitting that skill against the mega-bombers. Yet another example of the distance explosion costing us fun and diversity.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterSmith
Let's not blame just DJ for "using extreme distance versus to take most of the design elements out of play" Isn't that what Snead did back in the day when he was the longest and straightest. Palmer was longest and straightest until a pudgy kid named Jack showed up and played a game that Bobby Jones was unfamiliar with by taking design features out of play. . Norman was longest and straightest when he dominated. A young Eldrick also took most design features out of play.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterConvert
Yes. But back in the day the bombers without a complete game didn't win, or contend much, in Majors. See Thomson, Jimmy. If DJ and Friends can split bunkers at 380 reliably with a golf ball that spins a lot more than the domesticated Pinnacle, more power to them. But they won't. All the time. That a millimeter or less off-center could send the ball over the Old Course Hotel 50 yards to the right of the "other" side will have a calming effect. And the guy with the pink driver who goes at it with an unhinged fierceness that does impart spin to the RockFlight will have to throttle it back, too. Plus, the tee on the Road Hole can be moved back in bounds. As for the rest of us who are at the margin where the Domesticated Pinnacle can be used with some effect, we can move up to where we were with the Professional, the cover of which took a cart path bounce with more aplomb than the ProV1 anyway. Well, since the necessary machinery has been sold for scrap, never mind on that plan. But as I said the other day, we can go back to curving the errant shot out of the trees again instead of chipping out. That would bring back more fun to the still Greatest Game.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
KLG +50
07.19.2015 | Unregistered Commenterchico
KLG, spoken like a pro. I mean written like a pro. Makes me think about guys like Jim Dent and John McComish(there's one for you), silly long but when they hooked or sliced it wasn't a hook or slice of today.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
So how did this argument hold up today? Dustin Johnson played one of the worst rounds in the field. His distance was still there...his mental strength and short game wasn't

Only Jack (funny he is one that complains about this, he was long then most) and Tiger could over power courses and also have the mental strength and short games to win consistently. Maybe why they are the two greatest ever.

Jordan Spieth is a tactician, and once again close to winning another major.

Again I write this as I have before, but records aren't being shattered. Every now and then you will see a "wow" low round. Are they shooting 59's weekly? No. Has scores at Augusta changed much over the years? Nope. Augusta is a great example as it's played there every year, and the winning scores and the final scores in the field...haven't changed in time

Same with TPC. Every year, the average score is the same

Sure, an amazing score will happen, but that has happened forever. Who cares if some hit it longer, are they winning all the time? Does the rest of the field not have the same advantage? If someone has the physical gift to be longer, we should hurt them? Stupid
Should banish all 6foot6 basketball players for life then. And raise the rim. Or move the pitching mound back 5-7 feet now as well since everyone is throwing 95mph and hitters have no chance (hence in stats, after steroid era), or make the football field longer cause the players are surely faster then the those playing in the black and white TV era. Nope, but golf is s "gentleman game" and only the non athletic should be able to win? Make it fair for the less physically gifted? Or why??!

These players aren't wearing suits and ties like they did when they built these courses. Nor are they the "non" athlete that started golf. Yet...these courses have stood up to the test of time for 50-100+ years. Of courses some changes to a course needs to be made throughout time...what sport doesn't that happen in? Every single one!

This article should be reposted with Jordan Spieth's picture instead of Dustin Johnson, as he just personally ruined the argument for the author.

And most importantly, bedsides the facts above... Do you want golf to keep in the decline?? This will only enable that. Growing the game. Not everything was better years ago, and doing something like this will just show the ignorance or the decisions makers in golf. Hence why the game is declining.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterDP
And one more thing
Watching Dustin and Jordan okay together, we saw a few things
One person was a power player with an amazing touch. The other a tactician

Bother played two very very different styles, and both had ups and downs. I wish I could say they both are tied as of right now, but the golfer with all the power that is ruining the game, fell apart, not the mentally strong tactician

As the case has been for 50+ years

The power player that doesn't fall apart all the time, we know them as Jack and Tiger. Only two ever

Power can only do so much.

These "distance" arguments will never hold up. And if the powers have their way, well even less people will watch and play golf.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterDP
Do I think you miss the point by a wide margin.the things that are being done to courses to keep the scores similar are the problem. Augusta was 6800 when Nicklaus was winning. Some of the pins used today were in places never seen before etc etc etc- all to combat distance. I could go on ad nauseum....
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterChico
Quit yer whinin shackle, this is a great fukkin tourney!
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterTourcaddy
"And most importantly, bedsides the facts above... Do you want golf to keep in the decline?? "

So the game is in decline, right DP? So you're saying if everyone could hit it 350 yards the game would suddenly not be in decline?
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterSal Bonpensiero
DP you are wrong about most of that.

First, we are not talking about "TigerProofing" or "DustinProofing" anything. This has nothing whatsoever to do with any given player. It is about the entire general level of play at the elite level. Including everything from the NCAA, to the Walker Cup, to the Tour.

Second, it is all about protecting the architecture of the great classic historic championship courses. If you want to suggest that Augusta National has provided a consistent test against distance and scoring over the years, I have very bad news for you. The only way ANGC was able to do that was with nearly annual renovations, lengthening, green speed enhancements, tightening, etc. The Old Course has done much the same. They have begged, borrowed and stolen land to stretch their golf courses for modern driver distances.

Having caddied for Jack in his prime in the early 70's, and having spoken to him since, I can assure you that at least one of Jack's concerns is that even in his heyday (when you correctly point out that Jack was VERY long, with massive power held in reserve most of the time), the distance difference between Jack and a top-performing club pro was not all that great. Nowadays that's no longer true. Jack has much more than that to say, of course; he rightly notes the differences in today's distances from his own in 1986.

But back to your main presumption, which is wildly off base. I don't care if the longest hitters in a competition win the tournament. All I care about is that the entire field can play comfortably on the historic courses without tricking them up. That's all. And it is no longer even an arguable point. Every single links course in the Open rota has, like Augusta, been pulled and pinched and stretched and glazed in order to host championships in the modern era of the solid core urethane ball. Period. It is a fact, and beyond argument. You are free to argue that it doesn't matter. (And I'd argue that your position is silly and insulting to my intelligence and sense of aesthetics.) But you can't argue that it hasn't happened, because it has.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
@Chuck, Well said.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
I love watching these new guys like Spieth and Johnson and Rory, but as has been said before here it's all just bombing and wedges. When was the last time being good at middle irons mattered, other than after hacking out after a short wide disaster off the tee.

Normal hackers play a more honest game these days since we can't fly over all the trouble.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterChristopher Fotos
This is the most boring discussion in all of golf. Dustin shot 75 today on a easy old course. What you say now rollback losers.
07.19.2015 | Unregistered CommenterV60
he shot 75 because he played badly- not because of being long. This is not anti long hitters-a long hitter would still be a long hitter no matter what ball they used-its just that you might not have to put tees on driving ranges or trick them up for them to be a challenge.Or is that too hard a concept to grasp?
07.20.2015 | Unregistered Commenterchico

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