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Looking (Mostly) Good: The Upcoming Major Venue Schedule

It's always a sad day to say goodbye to the Old Course, especially all signs point to no return until 2021. That year aligns the championship with the 150th anniverary of Willie Park Sr.'s win in the inaugural Open at Prestwick.

The R&A schedule includes old favorites Royal Troon (2016) Royal Birkdale (2017) and Carnoustie (2018). There is a commitment to considering the 2019 slot for Royal Portrush, depending on what happens there with the addition of two holes and other issues. The 2020 venue is TBD, and then St. Andrews figures to be the 2021 site. A pretty stout lineup with Turnberry looming for a return and Muirfield hopefully joining the conversation again soon thereafter.

As I noted in Golf World, the USGA will solidify it's schedule going forward this week by confirming the already reported news in local papers around Boston, Los Angeles and Pinehurst: the U.S. Open is going to some dynamite places over the next decade.  They will take The Open to The Country Club in 2022, Los Angeles Country Club in 2023 and Pinehurst No. 2 in 2024. Thats on top of five-start venues in Oakmont (2016), Shinnecock Hills (2018), Pebble Beach (2019) and a revitalized Winged Foot (2020). We'll just have to grin and bear Erin Hills in 2017 and soak up the San Diego vibes in 2021 when Torrey Pines hosts.

The PGA of America venue roster inspires less after Whistling Straits this year and Baltusrol next year. Quail Hollow (2017) and Bellerive (2018) at least loom as nice opportunities to sweat. Bethpage in 2019 should be fun if the greens survive, while 2020 at Harding Park looms as a second tier course chosen in part for date flexibility in an Olympic year, while Kiawah isn't getting many juices flowing after the last go-round (2021). And 2022 at Trump Bedminster is, well, causing headaches.

To view it another way, look at the upcoming years. Needless to say next year is pretty stout as is 2019:

2016 - Oakmont-Troon-Baltusrol
2017 - Erin Hills-Birkdale-Quail Hollow
2018 - Shinnecock-Carnoustie-Bellerive
2019 - Pebble Beach-Portrush(?)-Bethpage
2020 - Winged Foot-(?)-Harding Park
2021 - Torrey Pines-St. Andrews-Kiawah
2022 - The Country Club-(?)-Trump Bedminster

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Has the British Senior Open ever gone to TOC? It has gone to some of the other rota courses.

As far as the U.S. Open goes, I would think it needs to come back to one of the Chicago courses at some point.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered Commenterfyg
Have you been to Erin Hills recently Geoff? I think it will be an outstanding Open venue
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterBrian
Considering Erin Hills will actually be a great course (better than Chambers, anyway, which I liked), and with Erin being closed all year beforehand the conditions will almost certainly be better. Erin's variety of holes is impressive too. Torrey is boring, but it isn't exactly bad- nonetheless easily the weakest venue currently slated for the US Open.

2016's rota is simply stellar.

The PGA remains on a lower tier than the other majors because of times lack of interesting venues. There's never anything they go to that makes you particularly excited. Bethpage and Baltusrol are the only venues better than, Torrey Pines, even, and then not by all that much.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterN Johnson
@Brian - of course he has. Geoff would never ever ever ever criticize a venue he hasn't been to.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterJeremy
There's more to enjoy about Torrey than just the host city. For instance, will Tiger get through qualifying and be able to "defend" his win there?
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
which is worse: Torrey or Harding? hmmmmmm
07.21.2015 | Unregistered Commenterchicago pt
Next year's Masters is at Chambers Bay.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterMJ
Wow, imagine of Bethpage was switched back to 2019, for a Shinney, Carnoustie, Bethpage lineup. Would be the hardest year ever,
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
Has the PGAoA given up on Royal Melbourne? The Aussies will fill the house, and if they can get the last groups off by 11am local (go off on 1 and 10?), then it's Friday and Saturday night prime time viewing for the final two rounds. I'd stay up past midnight to watch that.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterJH
In 2022, President Trump will hit the ceremonial first shot at Bedminster. :-)
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterBrad Ford
FYG, they won't go back to Chicago area due to ...... No great course!!!! Last time Olympia fields ranked between 100-150 in the usa...they just lost the FedEx. X year to aronimink...... Great party town. Mediocre courses..
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterLaurel creek
We are down to very little course now because of what it takes to host a major. Was told that Hazeltine would not have the Ryder Cup if not for all the extra land they own around the course and the proximity to decent parking and two air ports.

I do think the PGA should go out side of the US on Olympic years
07.21.2015 | Unregistered Commentermark
Torrey always seems to bubble up some of the best players on the South Course..

It may be boring, but you can always count on it being a very firm test. If the rough is long, man is it tough. So yes, perhaps boring, but still overwhelmingly deserving to be in the rotation, especially with what it produced in its last go round.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterTom S.
Since this nonsense always gets brought up, let it be emphatically stated that in no way should or will the PGA of AMERICA hold its marquee event and major championship outside the United States. Not only is this a slap in the face to the club professionals throughout the country, it fails to realize that the term "major championship" came after the tournaments which are called now called majors were formed. Even if you feel a place outside the US and GB deserves a major, you can't just remove a current one from its historic roots--if anything it'd be better to create a new major to be held overseas. Or better yet, stage a World Golf Championship overseas since that was what they were intentionally designed for.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterGW
Torrey nails the important criteria: a huge population and tons of space for hospitality tents and vehicles.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterCarl Peterson
Why doesn't the R&A move the British Open to other parts of the world every 5-6 years?

They want to be referred to as "the Open Championship" and also govern the game in most of the world, so one would think it would be quite open minded and noble of them to take the tournament to other parts of the globe.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered Commenterfyg
What is the betting line on whether the PGA will stick with Trump in 2022? I'm thinking the odds are slim.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterPat
I do believe that Hoylake was promised three opens as part of the deal to get 2006, so now that we've had 2014, maybe they'll get one of the next two open slots; then another 50 year barren patch.
I am biased since I attended the 08 U.S. Open at Torrey Pines but I fail to see the bad reviews of the place. I would have preferred if they had not "Jonesed" it up so much but I think it is a worthy test. A player needs all of his game to play well 4 days and with its proximity to the ocean even the USGA can't ruin the greens too bad. I have also seen Oakmiont and Pebble Beach during Open weeks and Torrey is comparable to me even though the greens are not as severe (Oakmont) or small (PB). And more and more it appears it will be Tiger's epic last stand in the majors -so at Carl would say "it's got that going for it."
07.21.2015 | Unregistered Commentermunihack
If Torrey can host a US Open, Harding can easily host the PGA.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterJack
"...you can move mountains, you can break rocks, you can be the master, don't wait for nothin'...:

LOL
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
I think Erin Hills could be quite good/interesting. Surely the greens will be better than CB. Doesn't it have a lot of flexibility in terms of how holes can be played? Mike Davis will work his well publicized magic.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterHerb Windy
Isn't St Andrews generally every 5 years? So wouldn't it be 2020?
07.21.2015 | Unregistered Commenterelf
It has been every five years since 1990 but prior to that it 1984, 1978,1972,1964 so it wouldn't be unheard of to 6 years.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterGriffin
Correction: it was 1970 not 1972.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterGriffin
Oak Tree National or Southern Hills?
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterPG
"....let it be emphatically stated that in no way should or will the PGA of AMERICA hold its marquee event and major championship outside the United States."

GW, wholeheartedly agree with "should", have serious doubts about "will"...

...problem is the leadership of PGA of America, Office of the Chairman if you will, just do not get it, dumb for that matter. In fact, given the way they've handled certain things in the last couple years I'd be fine with them picking up the entirety of the corporate offices, and the tournament itself, and moving them to Australia on a permanent basis. Hit the road jack, elevate The Players to take their spot.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Whistling Straits? I couldn't possibly be looking forward to a major any less. Horrible venue. Valhalla, too.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterMatt
elf, the R&A will play TOC in 2021 so it coincides with the 150th Open.
07.21.2015 | Unregistered CommenterGolden Bell
@ fyg ...

"Why doesn't the R&A move the British Open to other parts of the world every 5-6 years?"

Strewth, there are THREE majors in the USA. Move one of them to "other parts of the globe"!
07.22.2015 | Unregistered Commentergaelgowfer
Pine Valley - Royal County Down - Streamsong Red (yes in august, whoever can survive wins)
07.22.2015 | Unregistered CommenterJack
" Streamsong Red (yes in august, whoever can survive wins)"

That would be interesting. I'm not sure they would get more than a couple hundred spectators considering the heat. Plenty of parking and open land though, but hunting rifles willl be mandatory to fight off the bears and other wildlife living on the grounds.
07.22.2015 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
I'll second the notion that the PGA championship is not headed to inspiring locations the next three years. Baltusrol offers a lot of history to chew over, but aside from the finishing hole, uh, how interesting is it anymore? I just don't understand taking it to a Tour course like Quail Hollow. And Bellerive? Why? Logistics, I imagine. (More critical than I imagine, actually.)

The one thing you can't predict is how a course might get dolled up for a major. Valhalla, for instance, looked wretched on TV back in '96, but during last year's championship looked absolutely captivating. Maybe it was just photographed better? Baltusrol and Bellerive may end up looking swell.
07.22.2015 | Unregistered CommenterClaude
You've got a course map of LACC North?
07.22.2015 | Unregistered CommenterPG

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