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Thursday
Nov302017

Video: The Stymie Is Almost Back! Berger & Reed Ready!

I really haven't a clue what Daniel Berger was thinking not asking Patrick Reed to mark before this eagle putt, but it's great practice for when the stymie returns! Who says these guys can't handle it? #backstoppinggoneawry

 

@db_straitvibin from the other side of the island.

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Awesome...it's now being used to collude on long putts.
The USGA, R&A and the PGA Tour are a disgrace.
11.30.2017 | Unregistered Commenterjjshaka
Plenty of room.
11.30.2017 | Unregistered CommenterDon
jjshaska...+1
11.30.2017 | Unregistered Commenterjimbo
Cheats
:sigh:
11.30.2017 | Unregistered CommenterErik J. Barzeski
Cheating
11.30.2017 | Unregistered CommenterMike Clayton
Chubby was too busy off to the side of the green eating a cheeseburger to mark the ball.
That is pretty blatent, especially when you see how many balls trickled out 10' beyond that hole.

@Doctor , I am not terribly impressed with the language that comes from TW after errant shots, but what ivory tower did you grow up in? Honestly, some of the folks on this site must be the most puritan stock ever...it sometimes seems like TW invented swearing after reading comments here. I'm pretty sure he isn't the only potty mouth on tour.
12.1.2017 | Unregistered CommenterBDF
BDF,

Couldn't agree more. Maybe my club or the dozen or so guys that I regularly play with are different than the church-goers on here but most of them can't go more than 10 minutes without swearing and that's just conversation. Castigating a poor shot takes it to another level. If you really want to hear some top-shelf, do-you-eat-with-that-mouth stuff, try spending a few minutes in a hockey locker room.
12.1.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSchlasser
BDF, I'm not going to say that I enjoy Tiger swearing, but I enjoy his fist pumps, and I'd rather take the good and bad (fist pumps and curses) over the robotic, boring behavior of almost everyone else.

My daughter has heard people swearing all her life. Guess what? She's not a juvenile delinquent. She knows that cursing has a sliding scale of acceptability that blends age, situation, company, etc.
12.1.2017 | Unregistered CommenterErik J. Barzeski
Not cool by both Reed and Berger.
12.1.2017 | Unregistered CommenterZokol
Man, that's clearly cheating. Not even close. Why won't these announcers call it out?

And EJB, we all know how fun it is to play with a guy who swears, slams his clubs and fist pumps. Awesome. You wouldn't have enjoyed watching Nicklaus, Hogan or Faldo, play. To each generation its own, I guess.

BTW, in what other televised sport do you hear, on a regular basis, players swear?
12.1.2017 | Unregistered CommenterGinGHIN
@Schlasser... they don't televise the locker room rants. Nor is my 8 year old daughter standing within 15-20 feet of them. Any thoughts on slamming his club into the tee box? I guess that's OK too because he's Tiger.

I cuss often on the golf course but not when my kids are with me. I respect my kids and I do what I can to ensure that they respect me too.

Tiger's still Tiger. it's all about him and he has no class.
12.1.2017 | Unregistered CommenterJupiter
Gin, we're not playing the sport at the highest level. Tiger shows his emotions. He's not a robot. He fist pumps when he hits a good shot, and he swears when he hits a bad shot. I enjoy it.

That's a very different situation than playing with someone. In fact, I play with people who swear and occasionally slam a club into the ground. I don't mind. It doesn't really affect me or my play, so why should I care too much? Why give the actions of someone else that much power over my ability to enjoy the day? Christ, the glass towers in which some people here live…

In all televised sports you would hear players swearing up a storm if the mics were as close as they are to golfers. And in fact, in nearly every hockey game you'll catch a "dammit" or some other curse word. And heaven forbid you read lips while watching sports.

Athletes almost all swear. Sorry I had to be the one to teach you that…

And… Jupiter, you're just a Tiger hater looking for reasons to hate him. My kid has seen Tiger curse since she could barely say "Tiger Woods." She understand what's right and wrong for her, and the different situations. Be a parent. Teach your kids.

I'll take Tiger over the other robots on the PGA Tour.
12.1.2017 | Unregistered CommenterErik J. Barzeski
Clearly a case of front-stopping....hang all the cheaters I say.

and you side-stoppers...you're next.
12.1.2017 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
As for your opening question, Geoff.

Berger surely knew that the ball wasn't in the way of a putt that had a chance to go in, and he also knew that if his live as a little low, and he hit Reed's ball, leaving a one-footer would certainly be a good thing.

I'm really pretty fed up with these guys doing this to help their friends... doe anyone think that Reed would have left that for Rory in the last Ryder Cup?
12.1.2017 | Unregistered Commenterkenoneputt
Why do posters on here continue to equate their Saturday rounds with the top players in the world on TV? I'm probably in the top ten for all time cursing but I don't do it when I'm on a plane, in the airport, on the train, in a restaurant, at the gas station (okay, sometime at the gas station). You are not a Tour player. You are not close to a Tour player. You play a different game than tour pros. You will never play in front of a crowd or on TV. So stop somehow equating the two. It's not ok for a Professional to use bad language in front of kids or in a blatant non-caring way. Tiger Woods playing in front of thousands of fans on site and hundreds of thousands of fans on tv is not you and your dozen pals.
12.1.2017 | Unregistered CommenterKPK
Tiger Woods - a golfer who destroyed his own life both on and off the course.

Always pleased to see good golf but hate players who throw clubs to the point that it might hurt those watching. Tiger cared little for those on the course watching him, which for me defines the inner man and he is reaping the wrath of the Golfing Gods.

For all who watched Tiger making his money (some call it playing Golf), he showed them little respect through his language and temper tantrums.

What will be will be, but if he starts throwing his clubs again then Tiger is not fit to play upon any golf course.
12.2.2017 | Unregistered CommenterTom Morris
Have any players been challenged about this in press conferences? They ought to be. Failing that, I hope that there will be a huge backstop scandal -- involving leaders, in the final few holes of a major, and where backstopping affects the outcome -- which forces the issue.
12.2.2017 | Unregistered Commenter3foot1

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