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Feb122018

R&A Chief Slumbers On Distance: "We have probably crossed that line in the sand"

And there are a few more players coming through who have been brought up in a longer-hitting environment. So it’s a whole combination of things. I don’t really want to pre-empt the upcoming Distance Report, but that’s what we’re now thinking.”

John Huggan of Golf World talks to R&A Chief Martin Slumbers about The Open going to St. Andrews in 2021 as well as Turnberry's prospects (2023 now at the earliest), but the real eye-opening comments come on the topic of distance.

As with the USGA last week, Slumbers is hinting that the governing bodies saw huge distance spikes last year and will be revealing so soon.

“There’s no doubt in my mind that the technology has made this difficult game just a little bit easier,” Slumbers said. “At a time when we want more people to play the game, I think that’s a good thing. But we do also think that golf is a game of skill and should be reflective of skill. If you look at the data, there has been a significant move up across all tours. We’re looking at the longest on-record average driving distance. Both of those have caused us and our colleagues at the USGA serious concern."

That sure sounds like a bifurcation case, but as we know the B word is forbidden in the rulemaking world!

Here are the strongest words out of R&A headquarters in a long, long time:

“For a number of years there has been a slow creep upwards, but this is a little bit more than slow creep. It’s actually quite a big jump. Our 2002 joint statement of principles put a line in the sand. But when you look at this data we have probably crossed that line in the sand. A serious discussion is now needed on where we go.”

Strap in, this is about to get interesting!

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It was always going to take established shrines like ANGC and St.Andrews to be threatened to make these guys finally think about it...should have been done the second Augusta had a first cut and Hooties tree farm.
Toonamint ball time.
02.12.2018 | Unregistered Commenterjjshaka
Toonamint ball would be chaos...there's no other sport where pros have to swap our their equipment for 1 week a year and try to establish all their yardages, lines, etc.

The change has to be across the board. We need a pro ball and am ball. Or make the size slightly larger for pros. Give em time to adjust. The best will stil be the best and when ams feel like they are ready they can swap to the pro ball. The model works for baseball and they haven't had to make the fences 430 feet to all fields.
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterPGT
Very curious to see the report...
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterJS
PGT, Rawlings live balls are back. See 2016 and 2017 HR totals.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/hitting/hihr6.shtml
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterFC
Will someone wake up Mike Davis at the USGA so that we can finally address this all too obvious problem? It's getting ridiculous. Yesyerday, Dustin Johnson hit two iron shots and reached a Par 5 hole. And, 300 yard drives are the rule rather than the exception. I want golf on the professional level to be more than a long driving contest.
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterGreg
To be more precise, a 320 yard downhill 3-iron, followed by a 200+ yard uphill 6-iron past the flag.

Stay calm, there's not many in the game that can do this, so proofing the game for a few seems folly to me.

And as others have said, exceptional whackers will still have substantial distance advantage, no matter what ball is played.

I thought the Potter Jr. win would stifle whiffle ball speech. Guess not.
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterFC
FC I'm with you. Curling is happening at the Olympics so I only caught a couple of holes of golf.

The one I specifically recall was a long par 3 (don't recall which one) where the first pro hit a 3 wood and then DJ hit an iron. They ended up within yards of each other (from the camera view to the right of the green).

There is no rollback that will have those 2 hitting more similar clubs on that hole.
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterMatts
If you make the tours play with a ball that spins like it did back in the 70s, fewer people would be in the fairway at 300+ yds .That would take away the bomb factor on tighter holes. Also, the ball manufacturers could create another product that everyone will think they need.

Strength isn't everything.
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterDave
@Greg, if you want golf to be more than a long drive contest, you should have watched the actual tournament yesterday. The guy who reached the Par 5 6th with two irons got outPLAYED by a dude who hit it 40 yards shorter off the tee but knew how to knife his short irons through the wind and put the ball in the right position on the fairways and greens. If you don’t think a course with three easily reachable Par 5s and seven Driver-wedge Par 4s can be challenging and interesting, well, then you weren’t paying attention yesterday.
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
"...by a dude who hit it 40 yards shorter off the tee but knew how to knife his short irons through the wind and put the ball in the right position on the fairways and greens."

That really was fun to watch.

I don't remember a single missed shot in the last 10 or 12 holes. Watching Ted tack his way around the golf course as it got more windy and chillier was just fantastic, an awesome display of superior decision making and flawless execution.

That's what golf is all about, the broadcast was tremendous. Some just don't know where to look.
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterMason 43/44
@Hawkeye,
It might have been an even better tournament with a deader driver face and a ball rolled 10%.
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterHardy Greaves
Ted Potter was the Ice Man for a week! Take a look at the final leaderboard. He should frame that so he can tell the grandkids someday about how he took down hall of famers at Pebble. Hitting the ball long is an advantage. Getting the ball into the hole sooner than your longer hitting opponents can be a dagger as well.
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterBooyahs
The R and A’s Slumbers. I guess they have been asleep. (Un)fortunate name?
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterEtienne Louw
Probably? You bet. Get on with it. Make a decision.
02.12.2018 | Unregistered CommenterIvan Morris
15 years too late. Billions of dollars/pounds wasted altering golf courses just because governing bodies are too slow or incompetent. Happy days.
02.13.2018 | Unregistered Commenterlairde
The governing bodies have never shown the ability to get this right; I doubt they'll get it right this time, either.
02.13.2018 | Unregistered Commenterrgw
What lairde said. They were asleep at the wheel.
Golfweek just posted the Top Ten drivers on tour with the club they use and ave. distance off the tee:

1. T. Finau 329 yds, Ping G400
T2. T Mullinax 320 yds, Ping G400
T2. K. Tway 320 yds, Taylor Made M2
4. L. List 318 yds, Taylor Made M4
5. J. Rose 317 yds, Taylor Made M3
6. G. DeLaet 316 yds, Titleist 917D3
7. R. Palmer 316 yds, Taylor Made M1
8. J. Day 315 yds, Taylor Made M3
9. B. Hagy 313 yds Ping G400
10. G. Woodland 313 yds, Tayor Made M3
02.13.2018 | Unregistered CommenterBill Wilson
Bill, looks like Callaway is doing their bit for rollback.
02.13.2018 | Unregistered CommenterFC
Billions wasted altering courses because of equipment?

Billions wasted on “mine’s bigger” by golf courses who didn’t need more length.

I’ll agree that a rollback could be needed, but owners/committtees/ idiots have been altering course with an eye towards players who never see their courses, all so they can play golf course expert
02.13.2018 | Unregistered CommenterP Thomas
@FC yes I thought it was surprising no Callaway in top Ten.
02.13.2018 | Unregistered CommenterBill Wilson
What was the line in the sand exactly? The distances the top players are hitting are mind-blowing, certainly, but that did not begin yesterday.
02.13.2018 | Unregistered CommenterAl B. Tross
@ P Thomas-so true. We are having issues here with that.
02.14.2018 | Unregistered Commenterchico

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