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Monday
Feb192018

An Overview Of How The Distance Debate Got To This Point

For those who haven't read my 2005 thriller The Future of Golf, or perhaps who have friends needing to understand why the governing bodies are warming up on the distance issue, Golfweek's Alistair Tait sets up the reason for the shift in position as we anticipate a report in the coming days.

Tait gets to the key question many were asking here at Riviera: What’s happened in the last year to change Slumbers’ mind?

“There has been a significant move up across all tours,” he said. “We’re looking at the longest on-record average driving distance. It’s caused us as well as our colleagues at the USGA serious concern. We had talked for a number of years about slow creep. This is a little bit more than slow creep. It’s actually quite a big jump.”

“Our 2002 joint statement of principles put a line in the sand, or purported to put a line in the sand. Our view is when you start to look at this data now, that we have probably crossed that line in the sand and that a serious discussion is now needed.”

Now what?

The Allan Robertson testing facility seems ideally suited to get on top of hitting distance. A tour of this facility is like entering a new, high-tech world. Clubs and balls can be tested to the limit under the watchful eye of professor Steve Otto, the R&A’s director of equipment standards and chief technology officer. There doesn’t seem to be anything about golf equipment the former NASA employee doesn’t know.

The problem is trying to please all facets of the game. No avid amateur golfer wants to hit the ball shorter. The manufacturers have worked within the governing bodies’ guidelines and will feel miffed if the two bodies take drastic action. Many tour pros obviously won’t welcome a rollback.

It’s a big job, but long overdue. It’ll be interesting to see what the two bodies propose next.

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A question I've always had about this topic is assuming we get a roll-back/bifurcation or whatever, does that mean that the Tour pros will play the courses as they are currently configured, or will they automatically reduce courses by x hundred yards and use tees that are further forward? If they don't then I can see how a current shorter hitter would be upset by that. For example, at Riviera, the likes of Kevin Na and G Mac were already hitting hybrid clubs into a couple of the par 4s. A rolled back ball means that they are probably then having to go in with 3 woods. Surely rolling back the ball means an immediate reduction in the length of the golf course? (e.g. moving the 2nd and 17th tees at the Old Course at St Andrews back onto the actual course)?
02.19.2018 | Unregistered CommenterChad
I have hundreds of balls but still buy nice shiny ones for competitive rounds. I would have a minuscule, some would say undetectable, disadvantage if I just used the first one out of the ball pocket, but it is not a variable that I am willing to add.

No avid golfer wants to give up an advantage, if others are not. Nobody is clamouring to use a 50” driver, they accept that a length has been set and all reputable manufactures are adhering to this maximum length.

The USGA and R&A have a huge opportunity on the care for the environment ticket.

Declare that in 5 years all sanctioned pro and elite amateur tournaments will conducted with biodegradable balls. When setting the parameters for biodegrading also set CORs, minimum sizes, weights and spin rates.

General play and non-elite competitions can continue with current stock for a further 3 years and then only fully contained, recyclable facilities such as driving ranges can use balls produced under current methods and at end of use those balls are recycled.

Ball manufacturers then have a built in obsolescence, Langer can return to playing 18 balls a round, everybody wins
If there is two balls, the pga tour and the national amateur would use them i am guessing. I would guess that than the pga of america would use them in there local and national championships because it is a qualifier for the pga championship. Would college use them? AJGA? What about the USGA four ball ? I would hope the the golf channel am tour would use the old ball
02.19.2018 | Unregistered Commentermark
The ANGC land acquisitions are nothing more than advance planning. Not a bad plan since nature isn't making more in the area. ANGC has "friends" at the top level of the USGA and R&A. And now that they've reluctantly acknowledged their distance slip is showing, are not about to step on it by adding significant length (again) or a Masters ball pending a forthcoming decision. It doesn't mean ANGC has complete faith the governing bodies will protect the integrity of the event. Whatever the governing bodies decide to do, has the probability of being watered-down in an attempt to placate the business side of the equation. Always a problem when there are too many accountants in the kitchen.
02.19.2018 | Unregistered CommenterD. maculata
If the ball goes so dang far these days, then why do so many professional golfers still miss the cut every week?
02.19.2018 | Unregistered CommenterSclaff & Foozle
Issue gets to a basic question? Whose running the game today and in the future?
02.19.2018 | Unregistered Commentergibby
I wish I could understand why there is such a push back from ball manufacturers. I understand if we were talking about changing the clubs. They have a very long shelf life and the public would be against having to buy new confirming clubs, but balls are constantly being replaced. A 300 yard drive needs to be the exception, not the rule. Long hitters will still have an advantage, but maybe they will have to hit something longer than a wedge into greens designed for mid to long irons. Amateurs, will not be that affected.
02.19.2018 | Unregistered CommenterSneidly
The whole point of the exercise is sustainability and economics - of course, if the ball doesn't go as far the courses can be shortened (in due course)
02.19.2018 | Unregistered CommenterIvan Morris
Chad +1
02.19.2018 | Unregistered CommenterMattS
Maybe
Titleist. We’re not the longest ball but we’re still pretty good

Isn’t a great marketing position?
02.19.2018 | Unregistered CommenterP Thomas
100 golfers may hit the ball too far but millions don't hit it far enough. At my course, people are moving up tees when they get older.
02.19.2018 | Unregistered CommenterDave
@Sclaff & Foozle

Same reason they missed the cut in the 80's, 70's, 60's, 50's....etc...etc. Try harder the next time you attack the Straw Man.
02.19.2018 | Unregistered CommenterMatt A
@Matt, before criticising an absurd statement or question, ask yourself if said statement or question isn’t actually a joke... In this case, I think it’s fairly obvious, and I found it quite funny!
02.19.2018 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
Well, when somebody organizes a nationally televised short drive contest, I'll fornicate with a chicken on the Johnny Carson Show.
02.20.2018 | Unregistered CommenterSclaff & Foozle
Equipment bifurcation is the only way to go in the modern game. A part of that is certainly a ball roll back in terms of pure distance, but also, they should consider reverting back to a higher spin ball (think Balata), as it would present an additional skill challenge for the extremely long hitters on tour. Also, with regard to driver specifications, what about a cc limit on the models Touring pros can play? Shorter ball, more spin & smaller (more traditional) driver head size may just re-introduce the variables that made golf great for 100's of years and curb the ever continuing course lengthening conversations / reactions.

Amateurs, up through the elite level, would still use the the regular equipment available so manufacturers would feel little if any impact. The graduation from game improving, amateur equipment to tour level professional equipment would begin at competitive lower professional levels (mini tours up through web.com). I don't think the conversation differs too much from the transition baseball players deal with specific to bats as they come out of college to the professional ranks. There is an adjustment to consider, but the best of the best will adapt.

Some of my favorite players growing up were guys like Nick Price and Olazabal, guys who's best weapons were 2 / 3 / 4 irons. In today's game, I fear they would have little ability to compete and certainly not in majors.
02.20.2018 | Unregistered CommenterPMG
S&F, make it Jimmy Kimmel Live! Carson died 2005.
02.20.2018 | Unregistered CommenterFC
Oh.
02.20.2018 | Unregistered CommenterSclaff & Foozle
Nick Price
Who used a solid core ball for less spin and more distance when he was number one??
02.20.2018 | Unregistered CommenterP Thomas
PMG what are they going to roll back to? Roll back to 1995. Okay-A 1995 Top-Flite with a softer cover might do everything a modern Pro V1 does. That is all that has happened in golf. Legal 1995 balls were given softer covers so that they spun a bit more off the shorter irons. The balls that were legal in 1995 are still legal in 2018.
02.21.2018 | Unregistered CommenterSteve McQueen

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