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Wednesday
Oct172012

USGA's Davis Holds Closed Door Top Secret Presentation To Tell PGA Tour Policy Board How Anchoring Ban Will Work, Share Public Feedback And What To Expect When It Happens

Credit weight loss Tweeter Alex Miceli with the scoop that Mike Davis confidentially told the PGA Tour Policy Board how the governing body intends to act on anchoring putters this fall, only to have the player members blab away about the specifics of what sounds like an upcoming ban on the act of bracing a long putter against the torso.

Davis' appearance before the Policy Board indicates the USGA expects opposition when it makes an announcement, which the association has said would be by the end of the year.

According to Goydos, Davis’ presentation indicated that the USGA has received overwhelming support in letters and e-mails from the general public to ban anchoring. Davis Love III, a Sea Island resident and the recent Ryder Cup captain, expects a different sentiment from the Tour's rank and file.

Rex Hoggard had this from board member Davis Love:

“I don’t know what (the Tour) would do,” Love said. “I told Mike Davis, ‘We are going to have 10 guys who are vehemently against, and then 10 guys who are vehemently for you, and then the rest of them are just going to go play.’ That’s the way it is on any issue.”

Love’s only concern was whatever the USGA and Royal & Ancient do, they should move quickly and avoid dragging a potential rule change out.

“If they said today, ‘We met with the Tour we’re going to change putters,’” Love said. “Keegan Bradley is going to get himself a different (conforming) putter and he’s still going to be a really good putter. He’s just going to have to make a change, but you’d rather not talk about it for three years and have it be a distraction.”

It's amazing Tim Finchem doesn't have any grey hair when you know he gets reactions all the time like this one from Paul Goydos. Back to Miceli's story:

If the verdict is to ban anchoring in 2016, then Goydos thinks other issues – foremost, integrity – will emerge.

“If a player who has played with a belly putter decides to switch to a regular putter in 2014 and plays poorly, they will be looked at as a player that has cheated before,” Goydos said.

Davis counters by noting that Bobby Jones and Sam Snead used equipment and strokes eventually banned, but Goydos dismisses that point.

“That was a different world, 1930 to 2013,” Goydos said. “The USGA has a responsibility to make sure they are not labeled cheaters.”

And what exactly would you propose they do? A special non-cheaters wing to the Anchoring Hall Of Fame?

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But, Mr. Goydos, they ARE cheaters. Ernie Els told us.
10.17.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRyan
Haha.. brilliant reference to Miceli, him getting spammed with weight loss messages is one of the funniest things ever. Keep a screenshot for posterity.

This rule change will really impact Bradley, doubt we'll see him on another Ryder cup team (let alone contending for a major).. he must be utterly reliant on the anchoring.
10.17.2012 | Unregistered CommenterStord
I don't think that the Bradley/Simpson types would be labeled cheaters, but the pressure for them to perform well with short putters will be intense. There will be some media types that will focus intently on their post-ban putting abilities.
Nobody is going to be called a retroactive cheater. The rules will have been changed, why would that make anyone a cheater prior to that. Same thing with the wedge/grooves issue. They have already said that statistically there is no difference in the results, so I would not expect that to occur. Who's to say that Webb or Keegan will be awful using the regular putter ? This is grasping at straws.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
I know this isn't the forum, but can't they focus their efforts on the ball, that's having a larger effect.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered Commentertrapdraw
It will be a huge difference for them confidence-wise. At least for awhile and under pressure. Lets face it, you don't get to this level with a bad flat stick. But miss 1 or 2 a round and by Sunday, 30-40 guys have passed you. Stord has a point, they might be good enough to keep a card but not good enough to win or contend on a regular basis. There's a reason they picked it up in the first place.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterD. maculata
It's a teaching aide...nothing more nothing less. I voted for implementing a local rule...that will at least get the dreaded B word process going.

Goydos's comment/remark was great, I never thought of the "cheater" label from that angle, another reason he should be deputy commissioner for life when he retires.

Keep at this Geoff, it's a topic worth dissecting.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
Why doesn't the Bobby Jones/Sam Snead argument work? Didn't the USGA exist back then?

I do not think guys who do not putt as well w/o anchoring will be called cheaters. The legitimacy of their previous wins will be questioned (and rightfully so), but that does not mean they cheated to get those wins.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRyan
The rule change will not mean they will start using short putters, they will only have to stop anchoring. My guess is you will not see even one of them change to a short putter, you will only see them change the way they hold the putter.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
Ban anchoring putters for the health of the game.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterLuis
Just pull the damned trigger and make a decision. All these trial balloons and info sessions etc. show that the "leadership" is too worried about approval.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBob Clarke
Bob...remember that the USGA and R&A want to have a unified approach on this issue. Seems that the USGA is the one leading the charge...so maybe the R&A is a bit hesitant, which may be holding up any decision. Based on other issues (COR, grooves, ball, etc), the R&A is more of a wait and see organization, even if the USGA is pushing for changes.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSteve
I respect Goydos' point and his feelings, but by his logic you'd never be able to change or ban anything (unless everyone used it), and that doesn't seem like a healthy thing for the game going forward.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered Commenterelf
What a crock of crap. If the game allows something and a group of people take advantage of the rule they cannot be labeled cheaters. Goydos is a tool, little talent with a big mouth. I have used a long putter for 10 years and will not quit. Agree that they need to pull the trigger and get the decision put in place. Nothing worse than having idiots debate a topic they have no decision making ability.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDavid
Sam Snead may not have been called a cheater, but I think he has been ridiculed for putting croquet style. At least one of Els, Bradley, or Simpson won't win another major and I'm sure people will mention that they couldn't win because their belly putters were banned.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterChene
I don't think Simpson or Bradley are as good w/o the long putter. Now, they could learn to be ''good again'', and I wish them well, but IMO, all the wins with the anchored putter are ''asterisk wins''...and this is just my personal opinion-- I do not expect them to be labeled as cheats- they have not been cheating- but if they cannot pull the trigger on another victory, then the debate on whether they were mentally challenged or physically will bring on yet another plethora of putter pundit pecking, or tweeting as it may.

I putted with a split grip on a conventional length putter (anser style head) well gefore LAnger did the arm hold move-- I just let my upper hand pivot while the lower hand moved the head. I built a (legal) one piece grip that was simply extra long. It worked pivoting in this manner. The belly putter guys could easily adapt.

If you can pivot off your stomach, you can pivot off you upper hand..... and if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
Gotta love the people who say making the game "harder" will drive people away. For most of us, we started playing with persimmon woods, bades the side of a pack of matches and balls that had a mind of their own...and loved every minute of it. Golf is a passion, regardless of skill or equipment. Most of the golf nuts I know are 15-20 handicaps and scoring 2 strokes more (or less) has zero impact in their decision to play the game. For newer players, I seriously doubt an anchoring ban will affect their decision to take up the game...or keep playing. Most people would agree that putting is probably the last thing new players care about/practice and a well struck tee shot or iron shot is what brings them joy, not making one more putt a round.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSteve
@Steve, I'm not excluding The R&A from "the leadership" - they've been involved with the trial balloon launches this year as well.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBob Clarke
Hey! What about the Seniors?? Anybody ask the elders with their second lease on life what they think??
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterShortputts
Let me take the time to clarify a few misconceptions . Sam Snead copied Bob Duden with the Croquet style. When Bobby Jones complained that the style looked unseemly and the USGA banned it Snead adopted the side saddle style which is still legal on all tours. Nether of those styles "anchor" the putter to anything but the hands. If anchoring is used as the reason to ban it, all of the belly,broomstick putters on tour will find a way to continue to use long putters. They will just not anchor anything anywhere. I have been putting side saddle since 1970 and touch the grip with just my hands. Nothing is anchored.This is another issue that is " Much ado about nothing " quoting the great bard.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJoe Jones
Let's not forget about Adam Scott.. he'll rue his one chance to win a major. Without the long putter he's in serious trouble.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterStord
The USGA is driving more average golfers out of the game with their idiotic rules. Drop take a stroke penalty and play on. The game of golf is dying and the USGA isn't helping. The game should be made easier and more fun not less.
10.18.2012 | Unregistered CommenterNick
To take golf away from the normal path of development as we se in all other sports is wrong. Who wants to watch highjump "oldstyle" instread of the fosbury flop? Who wants to watch old wooden raquets in tennis instead of graphite? It is also bad for people with bad backs. Yes, it may help some players with "the yips", but it would be available to all. The R&A and the USGA are a little group of ultraconservative people who will always try to strive backwards to hinder progress and pull our game back to the dark ages.
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSweden
Ban them - deal with the lawsuits and get on with golf until the next big thing that some think is an advantage for a few speak out again - These young guns will adapt - Golf is dying - The USGA and R&A should not be leading the demise by making it more difficult for some who may need to anchor
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBrian
Make anchoring optional...if you want to anchor your putter.....you have to anchor your driver.....Bwahahahahaaa
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterCarl Spackler
Can't wait to see (Augusta) Tim implement the anchor rule immediately for PGA Tour events like he did the new groove rule. We'll see what this leader is carrying in his Sack!!
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBuck $tops Here
The USGA is so arrogant that they implement a square grooves rule that had little effect upon the PGA Tour. Instead of making the game better by getting rid of senseless rules like stroke and distance and replacing it with a lateral hazard rule that would place the ball at the nearest point of relief plus a stroke the USGA continues to operate in a vacuum. Wake up Mike Davis, grow the game, attract new golfers, The game is dying, golf courses are closing and this is what the USGA does. Stupid.
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterElizabeth
What basis does Goydos have for supposing that after a ban people will accuse those who anchored their putters of cheating?
Think about it. Unless he's psychic, the only rational explanation for his fear is that people already are saying it's cheating. Is he really suggesting that we shouldn't change the rules because if we do Webb Simpson and Keegan Bradley might get UPSET? They're better than that. A lot better. And I don't see someone like Bradley ducking a chance to prove it. Goydos's argument does them and other players who are currently anchoring their putters a disservice.
Personally I think the aesthetic argument is enough. Watching The Open, I became desperate for Adam Scott to lose simply because of how ugly his putting stroke is. Which is deeply unfair of me, I know. But who wants to see a fantastic natural athlete with one of the beautiful swings in the game putting as if he's trying to work out how to use a new prosthetic limb? If everyone had to putt like that, I'd give up golf.
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDesperate Dave
Most professionals swing a golf club somewhere around 100 mph and higher and do pretty well slinging it.
But you want them to be able to putt with the end of the putter anchored and not moving at all while striking the slowest swing in golf.
Makes very little sense. Part of the challenge, skill, fun and greatness about golf is going from one type of swing / shot to another and adjusting accordingly to score.
Anchoring the putter and making a stroke is still a swing of the putter head. That being said my main beef with anchoring the
putter is that it is an alignment aid. By anchoring the grip end, the putter head travels on a fixed arc. If this isn't a constant aid to alignment
what is? And as far as I know intentional alignment aids like your caddy standing behind you on your intended line is against the rules during the play of a stroke. Yes they still have to read the putt and hit the ball but with it going back and through on a fixed line it clearly is not in the spirit of the rules of playing a stroke.
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterKegger
Elizabeth...the majority of golfers (especially new ones) don't play by the rules anyways. You really think if the OB penalty was the same as lateral hazard, it would bring new people into the game? I play 75-100 rounds a year and almost everyone I play with (outside of a competition) just plays OB as lateral anyways. Changing the rule would do nothing in terms of keeping them interested in playing the game.
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSteve
I cannot believe the USGA and R & A have made this a big issue when the players on the various Tours have not made it an issue. The only reason the governing bodies have raised the issue at this stage is that there have been some high profile wins with the anchoring method and they don't like that it is inconsistent with how the putting method was originally performed. If this was considered a crucial issue to the integrity of the game why are we discussing the matter now when the anchor method has been used for decades. Its not fair to players like Bernhard Langer and Fred Couples who have relied on the fact that it is currently a legal method and have perfected that method for their game and to now take it away is unreasonable. I also wonder if there will be an attempt by players on the PGA Tour to argue that the Tour should allow use of the anchored method as a "local rule" at their tournaments...the Tour certainly can choose to establish its own rules if they wish. Lastly, if the anchor method was an advantage why don't all players use it? The answer is that its not an advantage....
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJay
They could try the Big Bertha approach. Outlaw the belly putters on the PGA but still allow it in non competitive golf. Remember when the PGA outlawed the Big Bertha and Arnold Palmer still endorsed them for people that dont play in sanctioned events? Also, The cheater statement by Goydos is bologna. No one calls the people that won on tour cheaters that did so during the square groove era.
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterVaughn
Eliz, The game of golf is not dying. Golf courses struggle because there are just too damn many of them. When that gets corrected we wont think golf is dying.
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterTicky
@Elizabeth..... Pleasse read the rulebook on grooves and the changes to them. Square grooves were not banned. The dimensional properties of grooves, regardless of groove shape, are what changed. I will agree though that it appears to not have made much difference.

@Vaughn...... The driver Palmer said for people to play was the Callaway ERC II not the Big Bertha. It had a slightly higher COR (.86 vs .83) that on perfectly struck shots (sweet spot) would have given a player an extra 5-7 yards off the tee.
10.19.2012 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
I already call them cheaters so there is nothing retroactive about it. The faster they get this rule in place the better. I can't think of a single great putter who relied on gimmicks like the belly putter to be successful.
10.20.2012 | Unregistered Commentervegasbob
@Nick,

>>The USGA is driving more average golfers out of the game with their idiotic rules.

These "golfers" are taking-up a game that has rules (most of which have existed for hundreds of years). Blaming those rules, which existed
before these "golfers" took up the game for driving these "golfers" away from the game is just silly.

These "golfers" are free to continue playing their game i.e., by ignoring the rules but no one should take them seriously when they try to blame the Rules of Golf (or its authors) for anything.

BTW, if it is not clear, my use of quotation-marks is meant to show my contempt.
10.20.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBob Clarke
I think that both long and belly putters should continue to be allowed. Take a look at a lot of the short putter guys their using grips as big as cans , claw grips , reverse left hand down grips and all are looking for that competative advantage to get the ball in the hole.

Which leads me to the believe when it comes down to it its not how the ball goes in the hole its how many it takes to get there. Will the R&A and USGA ban Jim Furykes circle 8 swing or the draw next. Puting the ball in the hole is the name of the game no matter how its being done.
10.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAl Waltman
Hey, I got called a cheater last week in the course parking lot for just having a belly putter in my bag.
10.25.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMack N

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