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Monday
Jul302012

Are Average Golfers Anchoring To Great Advantage?

I'm catching up on the week's chatter, so forgive me if you saw some of the pre-Canadian Open talk about a possible ban on anchoring long putters. Rick Young at Score Golf featured some intriguing comments from players in Canada and one stood out:

"The USGA and R&A will have a tough time changing a rule that hurts the average player," Pernice said. "Belly putters and long putters are helping average golfers. They don't want to take them away. I think it has to be a rule for competition at the highest level. If they do away with it, it does some injustice to the average player. We want average players to get as many advantages as possible. I don't want it taken from amateurs who may not play anymore because putting has them so frustrated they don't want to play anymore."

We are well aware that a lot of pros are getting an advantage from anchoring, but are average players really gaining much from anchoring?

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How many "average" golfers know about and adhere to USGA rules? A significant % of players in America will have non-conforming grooves soon per OSGA rules but they will keep playing their social rounds of golf with those clubs.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJT
Sorry for the typo, USGA
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJT
@jt - you are correct. I would wager that 90+% of rounds played every week are "golfiness". Players with no idea how to drop from a hazard, much less the difference between a hazard and a lateral hazard, to bumping the ball, to not putting out; much less conforming grooves or nonconforming grooves. If the average golfer played by the "rules", they'd be on the course for 6 hours!

It's time to bifurcate the rules, especially on equipment. Being concerned about the numbers of rounds being played and asking the same population to spend a $100 on a new club because his or hers old club gave Phil or Tiger a perceived advantage is nuts.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered Commentertiger's fault
When I learned how to write propaganda for a large organization, one of the most important techniques involved creating a diversion.

Grooves and anchors will do for now, but some new irritant will surface every time you folks begin to focus on the problem they do not want to tackle.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterLudell Hogwaller
JT,

I wouldn't call it soon for the groove issue:

Your average golfer has to at least 2024 under the USGA groove rule before they are nonconforming. It's 2014 for major amateur tourneys.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJS
As a club builder I've noticeably increased my inventory of long putter shafts and double grips. Not concerned about any rule changes. Most of the folks I've built broomstick putters for don't putt any better, but they think they do. That's the key to golf equipment sales. A good deal or worthy purchase is simply a state of mind.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAverage Golfer
I agree with Average Golfer. I switched to the Broomstick a year ago. My putts per round has not changed. While I'm not making as many 5 to 10 foot putts, I'm no longer scared to death of a 3 to 4 foot putt. So both the number of 1 putts and 3 putt greens per round has declined since going to the Viagra putter.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered Commenterd
If one considers having to bring a mental and physical crutch/mechanical joint out onto the course with them an "advantage"...then I would say the answer is 'YES'!
07.30.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
I've never used a long putter, but have had the yips* and that stretch of golf was the most joyless imaginable. Petrified by anything longer than maybe 18"...with the aspect of the game I found least compelling. So I don't think the 'frustration' idea is overstated.

Totally unsupported, but I'd guess a vast majority of casual players would say the half dozen or so well executed full shots per round is what brings them back week after week. Not many would say, 'The challenge of 'putting'. Putting for most is a sort of penance, lol.

*Like c and c and others on the site, things got a lot better going with what is a conventional right handed grip but putting from the left side. If you're struggling, try it!
07.30.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
"I don't want it taken from amateurs who may not play anymore because putting has them so frustrated they don't want to play anymore."

I don't agree with this statement. I think people don't want to play because they can't hit a driver or an iron much more than the fact they can't putt. My wife can't play the game all that well, but she can still 3 putt or less almost every green. She is far more frustrated by her inability to hit the ball straight or long than by her putting issues.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDave
I play quite a bit of golf around SoCal, mostly on public courses, and I have yet to see somebody using a belly putter.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered Commentergreg c
Anchoring is a distinct advantage. I have been playing the game for over forty years, both public and private courses, I have seen one long putter in use. The Pros are paid to produce and will use any equipment that will results.

It is up to the governing bodies need to step up.

The current Open Champion considers it "cheating"
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRFLP
greg c...I agree. I 've played over 200 rounds the last two years in the Chicago area with hundreds of different players...zero belly putters and maybe 1 or 2 long putters. What percentage of players are using them...1%?
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSteve
more rules, more rules, GOLF NEEDS more rules, clearly.

oh, by the way, did anyone catch Inbee Park's stunning putting round at the Evian Sunday? The only thing I think we won't get, ever, with long putters is the ART that flows from the stroke of a putting genius.

achor, schmanchor, brooms and the like are for golfers who can't putt, simple as that. If it lets them play the game and enjoy it, or at least hate it less, why should we find a way to kill their joy or, much more likely, increase their pain?

At the pro level, It actually seems a little bit designated hitterish, imho, (and I'm pretty sure we'll never see pitchers batting in the American League).

Do I care - nope.

Do I care that the pros care or don't care - nope.

If you watched Adam Scott fritter away the Open Championship with the cheater putter he uses you know that anyone can miss any putt with any stick at any time.

That's what golf is all about.

And that won't change a whole lot either way.

What I'm truly waiting for is some Pelz-bot to come along and have 2, or even better, 3 putters in their bag - the Broom for 1" - 5ft, the Belly for 5ft to 20 ft, and a "Regular Putter" for lengthy things that couldn't possibly inspire yips, but might just require a little touch, or, heaven forbid, maybe even some good old fashioned artistry...
07.30.2012 | Unregistered Commentergolfboy
I have been using a belly putter for the last 10 years and have been very happy with it. I'm a 4 handicap and and putting is one of my strengths. I was a decent putter before going to the belly putter but I am better with it for sure. I rarely practice putting because I have low back problems. The belly putter allows me to get by with less practice so for that reason alone I am dreading the ban which seems inevitible. There is no doubt it will make the game a little harder for me but I will manage.

My problem with the people who say it should be banned because it makes the game too easy is that they all use 460 cc drivers and have no problem with the advantage that provides. The modern big headed driver has had a far greater impact on the game than long putters ever could. If any player, professional or recreational was given the choice between having a long putter or keeping their modern driver instead of a 180cc driver, every one of them would choose the big driver over the long putter. Why? Because they know what a huge advantage it provides compared to an anchored putter. Does anyone really think that the founding fathers of the game would be more offended by a long putter than they would the rediculously huge headed drivers we all play? If the idea is to make skill a bigger factor in the game then why should it be limited to just putting is my point? And let's not even talk about the modern golf ball.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBT
@golfboy - As someone that carries 4 wedges (64,58,52,48) I read @d's comment about the ranges of putts I absolutely thought why not carry 2 putters. Surely there is a club that you don't use often. I used to carry different combination of wedges and pulled my 7 iron. I strengthened my 8 a bit and weakened my 6 a bit to fill the gap. It wasn't like I was knocking down flags in the 150-185 yard range anyway. The key is to figure out where you can save the most strokes and then be brave enough to do it.

My now wife almost didn't go out with me a second time because I had 'a ridiculous number of wedges.'

Not that it matters but 6 years ago I was a 32 handicap that couldn't break 100, and I have worked my way to currently be a 9 handicap. So not elite in any way, but the game is more fun now than then.

And since I've already typed too much. At my club I know at least 10 people that use a longer than 'standard' putter.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMattS
IMO the real question is not if the long putters allow average golfers to practice/play more often than they
would if told they must use a "normal length" putter.
The best players in the game, play by the rules of the governing bodies (for the most part), who make
the rules for the general golfing public.

Golf continues to (over)react to the 1-2% of the world's golfers, risking chasing away more from an already
dwindling number.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered Commenterfwiw
Jason Sobel recently posted this http://bit.ly/R0Kj8K

Have any of you ever read/heard the word 'inorganic' used in the discussion re: long or belly putters?
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterTed Mitchell
I'm in the UK and have never seen a club golfer using a belly or long putter. If I did I'd laugh hysterically, point them out to all comers and ridicule them into playing proper golf.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterLuddite
Steve, same experience here in NY. 267 rounds at Bethpage and never seen anyone using a belly or long putter (other than myself). Actually, I take that back....one of my regular playing partners bought a 48" 2-ball like mine and gave up on it in less than a month, sold it to me for a backup. Mine only had a brief turn in the bag the last 3-4 years, back to a regular length Ping or Scotty depending on the day. I don't think they have ever stocked a long putter at the Bethpage proshop but could be wrong about that.

The only place I see amateurs consistently using longer putters is at the high level amateur events I often caddie in for a buddy.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDel the Funk
I'm pretty active on the Chicago amateur circuit and play quite a few marquis events....except those that I can't seem to qualify for for the life of me. In 10 tournament rounds or so this year I've seen about 3 belly putters and one broomstick...I don't think outlawing anchoring would change much at all for the top amateurs in the state. More importantly, I've yet to see a single person in a casual round on a public course wielding a long putter...and seriously: How many casual amateurs really try to make a score on the greens? Many of my 15, 20+ Hcp friends couldn't care less about putting. They want to bang out a few drives, chat up the cart girl, and get a bit of a tan if possible. To think that we may all of a sudden lose a significant amount of players due to the outlawing of anchoring is totally ludicrous, imho.
I used a belly putter for close to a year and had a few very successful streaks, but have since gone back to the short putter. The reality of the long putter is that you need to practice quite a bit with it to really make it work for you...especially when it comes to distance control. In the end, the amateurs who actually practice and try to compete for a score (and some proshop credit) are few and far between. And even there, I'd argue that there are very few who have enough time to really practice enough to take full advantage of the belly.

If it's banned, nothing changes on the amateur side. Period.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAlex H
I see a lot more long putters for sale in golf equipment stores than in past years. I see a few more than in past years out on the course.

I have always presumed -- and still presume -- that the market is driven by recreational golfers who are emulating tour pros they see on tv. My belief is that this phenomenon is what drives much of golf sales. For most recreational players, it doesn't matter which style of putter they use; more than anything what they would benefit from is practicing putting for half an hour a day.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Most golfers know or care little for all of the complex rules. They just play and have a good time. These people are the ones that pay the bills at courses. Drive them away & the game will decline even faster than it currently is.

Let the USGA make rules for the .01 % of golfers who play in USGA events, if that makes them happy. Are long putters worse than hot golf balls, large spring-faced drivers, or GPS rangefinders?
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBud
Alex H. - well put. I still manage to play in some of the state and national amateur events in Australia and see a lot of the younger 'wannabes' trying out the belly, but not the broom. Most will use for a couple of months then revert back to a normal putter.

As for golfers at the club level, there are very few belly putters around but quite a few broom-sticks. I think the reasons for this are two-fold. Firstly, a belly putter does very little to fix the yip's because your using the same fundamental grip and the right wrist tension still exists. So, people that are 'forced' to try change will go straight to the broom-stick. Secondly, unless you're quite fit it's difficult to actually anchor a belly putter! Further to this, most broom-stick users I see do not anchor the club (like myself).

Bottom line for me; no equipment changes, just a rule change to ban anchoring - which I think is straight out cheating. Little, if any, tangible impact to the game but ensures that the game is kept as simple as possible.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterIanB
I have played 4 CDGA better ball events so far this year, and at least 1/3 of my opponents had some type of anchored/long putter. I've tried it, but have no touch or feel whatsoever on putts of any length. As bad as I'm hitting it, if I can't use my touch around the greens I have no chance -- which is what is occurring lately, unfortunately.

There are a lot of problems with golf that the governing (or lack thereof!) bodies should be dealing with, but long/belly putters are not one of them.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSmolmania
There is this guy that plays at the golf course I work at who's always hitting on me. One day he asked me if I liked his big long putter. Why do you putt with that I asked him. How much beer does this group go through in an 18 hole round of golf, a ton I said. That's right, and I like my hands to be at least two feet apart, that way the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Then he tells me his stroke gets smoother and smoother the more beers he drinks. Not sure about his putter, his flirting certainly gets smoother and smoother though. He's a descent tipper, and just ok looking.
i saw one guy with a belly putter using like a broom putter. there are not many people using them. Some, yes. It's always been illegal though.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterStreaky Putter
leave the Ams alone...torture and punish the pros..they can take it :o)
07.30.2012 | Unregistered Commenterrb
Say what you want about some Pelz theories, but he did do exhaustive research. He proved that an anchored putter is the most successful. He also proved that more balls stay in the hole with shots around greens when the pin is left in. Why anyone would take it out, pro or amateur, after seeing his results is beyond me. (Unless of course it's noticeably slanted.)
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAverage Golfer
I'm behind you 100% on that info Average Golfer! Love him or hate him, Pelz backs his opinions up with exhaustive research, and most importantly, solid and undeniable numbers. Guy probably spends a lot of time in the basement ;)
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
I apologize for earlier snark. Not very becoming. Sarcasm is the cheapest form of humor. I've only been learning for 55 yrs.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAverage Golfer
Ludell said its the ball. What the heck are the rest of you wanna be rules officials jammering about?
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAmen Coroner
Hey we're all friends here, no worries. Just yesterday was thinking I needed to get the SGB out and reread the bunker play chapter. Got an Emmett/Tilly walk tomorrow, Tilly's best 3-shotter on Wed, and the site of the '02 US Open on on Thurs, gotta be sharp! (and I'm talking a century between Open's ;)
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Ludell is right, of course.

I have seen a handful of long putters in these parts, but only one in the bag of a "good" golfer, who played in a Championship B flight with me in June. He putted well enough when he got to the green, but that took a while on a couple of holes. One single tree on the 6th hole has died of urethane poising because of him. I admit to laughing about that at the time, but not so he could see or hear me from 80 yards away, when he took out his frustration on the cart windshield. To his considerable credit, he didn't laugh out loud when I made a "9" on the 16th in the final round while tied with him for the lead, this after I dropped another "2" on his prospective skin (worth about $200) at the 15th. God was watching. You will all appreciate Mrs. Ghost's reaction to that: "A 9? That's not even a snowman, more like a blizzard."

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The reaction to the long putter is basically due to its dissonance. The "Rite of Spring" caused a riot at its premier. Now it's considered mainstream, sort of. But the long putter will always dwell in the "not golf" category with me, sort of where Berg and Webern and Schoenberg stay in the "not music" category. Atonal music, or a reasonable facsimile thereof, is not music. Watching Adam Scott putt causes the same reaction. Watching him hit a golf ball with every other club in the bag causes envy.

But, really, it's the ball and the 460cc driver that are f*cking up the Greatest Game.
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
@Bud, if these golfers don't know or care about the rules, why would a change in the rules drive some of them away?
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterTed Mitchell
I tried a long putter - but I went back to a short putter and went to the claw grip - I putt great now - the claw grip is what helps the most - it takes the right hand out of the stroke
07.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterCarl Spachler
Those who have never suffered from the yips but are now using belly putters (incidentally, I'd be very surprised if anyone who'd never suffered from the yips would ever have gravitated to a broom handle and stuck with it) are entirely responsible for this hellish situation the governing bodies now find themselves in. Mike Davis is on record as stating (and I paraphrase) that they didn't want to ban them because they allowed the average joe yipper to extend their enjoyment of the game. Now, we are faced with a scenario of a generation of children beginning the game with the belly putter. The governing bodies will now have to act to either ban them or bifurcate the game (where would that scenario end I wonder?).

Now, for those of you who think bifurcation is the answer, I have tell you that I don't want to compete against anyone in, say, the club championship who doesn't have a genuine reason - eg the yips - for using it. I want the non yipper to have the same test as I do when standing over putts of yon length so please ... no more talk about bifurcation on this issue please.
C & C - well said. Let those that suffer from the yips (like me!) use a broomstick, or whatever grip or putter length they like, but no anchoring. Simple solution
07.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterIanB
cheater putter? how about drivers heads as big as toasters. how about 64 degree wedges? how about high MOI putters. there is no rule against anchoring a club. The rules do state that clubs must be plain and simple in design. anyone out there checked out the irons, hybrids,and putters (find a plain and simple design being sold today)being used almost by everyone. I bet no poster on here is using a bulleye putter, staff irons and presimmon woods all with steel shafts. Check out old footage of the pros and you will see lots of them anchoring their hands to their thighs when putting. When we out law anchoring, who gets to decide if a club is anchored? The last time I looked, the hands are a part of the body, so how are we to play the game without anchoring being involved. Players of all eras have anchored their arms to their side when chipping and putting. Jack Nicklaus putted by pushing the club ithe his right arm and hand. I do believe pushing a shot is against the rules. Nerves as a part of the game? When everyone on this post is playing with clubs with sweet spots about the size of a dime I will take that argument seriously. GET OVER IT, WE STILL HAVE TO PUT THE BALL IN THE HOLE AND IF ANCHORING MADE IT EASIER, EVERY PLAYER ON TOUR WOULD BE DOING IT.
07.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenterrmp
cheater putter? how about drivers heads as big as toasters. how about 64 degree wedges? how about high MOI putters. there is no rule against anchoring a club. The rules do state that clubs must be plain and simple in design. anyone out there checked out the irons, hybrids,and putters (find a plain and simple design being sold today)being used almost by everyone. I bet no poster on here is using a bulleye putter, staff irons and presimmon woods all with steel shafts. Check out old footage of the pros and you will see lots of them anchoring their hands to their thighs when putting. When we out law anchoring, who gets to decide if a club is anchored? The last time I looked, the hands are a part of the body, so how are we to play the game without anchoring being involved. Players of all eras have anchored their arms to their side when chipping and putting. Jack Nicklaus putted by pushing the club ithe his right arm and hand. I do believe pushing a shot is against the rules. Nerves as a part of the game? When everyone on this post is playing with clubs with sweet spots about the size of a dime I will take that argument seriously. GET OVER IT, WE STILL HAVE TO PUT THE BALL IN THE HOLE AND IF ANCHORING MADE IT EASIER, EVERY PLAYER ON TOUR WOULD BE DOING IT.
07.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenterrmp

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