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Sunday
Dec082013

The Mechanic's Annuity: Claims Fourth Hong Kong Title

From an unbylined AP story on Miguel Angel Jimenez's fourth win in the Hong Kong Open, which extends his record as the oldest European Tour winner.

It was also his 20th European Tour win:

"It just gets better and better. I love Hong Kong and this course," said Jimenez, who extended his record as the oldest player to win on the European Tour to 49 years and 337 days.

"This is my fourth and it was my hardest. When you need to play a playoff, you need to play one more hole, and against two guys also trying to win is hard. But my experience paid off," said Jimenez who adds this title to ones he won in 2004, '07 and '12.

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There must be a lot of players on the PGA Tour in their 40's who are every bit as good as Jiminez. And some barely old enough for the senior tour (Kenny Perry). I'm also guessing a lot of them are well-known enough to get a sponsor's exemption, or maybe even have some sort of conditional status (past major winner?) If Jiminez can win and contend regularly there, could we see old American guys showing up, a variation of Peter Uihlein? Not to get on the PGA Tour, but to get a win?

I wouldn't think it'd be the best thing for Euro-U.S. tour relations, though. "Too good to get thrown off of the PGA Tour, but not winning any more? Then come on down to the European Tour fall series!…"
A lot of players? Name 5 Americans in their late 40s that could go win on the European Tour.
12.8.2013 | Unregistered CommenterJeff
None in my book. Stricker at 46 would seem a good choice, but is soft when it comes to traveling.

Jiminez is by far the world's best in his late 40's. Class act and happy to be teeing it up with the young guns.
12.9.2013 | Unregistered CommenterEasingwold
Copious rioja, Cubans and a hot young lady companion obviously work - go pony tailed fella !
12.9.2013 | Unregistered CommenterJose Malvinas
Chuck, is it that hard to admit that there are more good golfers than just on the American PGA Tour? Come on, man, Jingo should be the name of your dog, not your outlook on everything.
12.9.2013 | Unregistered Commenterhacker
Jimenez was hurt earlier in the year as well, I seem to recall. One of my favorite characters, just love the guy and how he operates. Good to see him win last weekend.
12.9.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPA PLAYA
The second most interesting man in the world gets better and better.
12.9.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
Chuck, you must be in the group of people who are still trying to figure out why we keep losing the Ryder Cup every two years. "We're so much better than them but we keep losing. Must be the captain. Must be the captain's picks. Must be the course set up."

No Chuck, they are WORLD CLASS players. Why is that so hard to admit? You give our name a bad name. Shame on you and Pity on you.
zero. the number of players in OWGR top-20 not on the PGA Tour.
12.9.2013 | Unregistered Commenterupchuck
Jeff - Off the top of my head, 5 players plus or minus five years from 50 who could compete like Jiminez: Couples, Stricker, Toms, DL3, and Perry.

I never said "the U.S. is better", I suggested the aggregate amount of talent on the U.S. tour is greater than in Europe. A lot of these top players aren't American, as you all know, so I don't understand that jingoism charge except as a knee-jerk reaction. It's about demographics, both national and Tour, not jingoism: The U.S. has so many more courses and players, and more of Europe's top players are coming here, leaving a "talent vacuum" in Europe.

Also, think about how many times you've heard or read about a European coming to the U.S. Tour. Sure, the purses are bigger, but these guys aren't paying lip service when they say America is where you go when you're on the top of your game - the bigger purses are in part a measurement of that fact.

The corollary to this is the fact that the list of Euro tour players who couldn't cut it on the PGA tour is much, much longer than the list of Americans who couldn't cut it in Europe (although admittedly not a lot have tried). A lot of European players with several wins come to the U.S., can't keep their status, but then go back to Europe and back to winning. Most of the courses aren't that different, so why does that happen so often?

Walk-ons like Peter Uihlein and Brooks Koepka are only a new thing in part because of the bottleneck to the PGA Tour that Finchem created starting this year. But if "the Tiger effect" has produced a lot of talented young players who now put more pressure on the older guys, these old guys can still regularly contend at an elite level - just not THE elite level of the PGA Tour, which for better or worse is now "first among equals" among the tours. They have a better chance in a field that's populated with a disproportionate number of Sternes and Dysons because it's missing so many of its Poulters, Westwoods and McIlroys.
Chuck, to your point, Westwood really hasn't done anything on the PGA Tour either. Played the tour full time in 2013 and missed the Tour Championship.
12.9.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Del, I think you're picking nits a little. Westwood just moved here December of last year. Sub another name if you want.

McIlroy didn't win either until last week, but I think we both know that both guys have lots of wins left in them - on the PGA tour or wherever they play.
Also the europeans play worldwide therefore they play on all types of grass, conditions and cultures. Jimenez is not just a great golfer but a great person too.
12.9.2013 | Unregistered CommenterJamie
Please count me as a BIG fan of The Mechanic!

Chuck, pretty sure Lee has at least 130 PGA Tour starts under his belt......2 wins, a decade apart.


"Also the europeans play worldwide therefore they play on all types of grass, conditions and cultures."

Let's see, long grass, short grass, putting green grass, green grass, brown grass, living grass, dead grass. Heat, cold, windy, calm, rainy, even snow! And..."on" a culture?
12.9.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
@ Chuck, I would back Jimenez against any of those 5 you mentioned. Couples, who, to be fair, does well most years at the Masters and LA is the only true shotmaker from that bunch, but can't putt when the heat is on. Stricker can putt as good as anyone, but won't play outside his comfort zone.

The battle hardened Mechanic competes worldwide like a man half his age. Stricker is a man to be admired, fine golfer too, but at 46, has just about had enough.
12.9.2013 | Unregistered CommenterEasingwold
What i am saying is that the european tour have to deal with all the cultures for example: food, language etc... Which the us tour dont have to deal with. Also well said easyworld
12.10.2013 | Unregistered CommenterJamie
Love the Mechanic. Wish we had more characters like him. And that stretching routine!
12.10.2013 | Unregistered CommenterSari
Kenny Perry is 52 now, turned 50 in the 2010 season. In the 2008 and 2009 seasons he won 5 PGA Tour events and lost 2 others in a playoff, including the 2009 Masters at age 48. He shoulda won that one. In 2008 and again in 2009 he finished 5th on the PGA tour money list (with over $9,000,000 in aggregate earnings for those 2 years). Respectively, Kenny was 48 and 49 years of age at the conclusion of those seasons.

Is there another modern era player who has done so much, so late?
12.10.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
@DTF
Perry had a golden end to his '40's to be sure. But he couldn't compete now, today, for whatever reason like Jimenez is, or he would be.
12.10.2013 | Unregistered CommenterEasingwold
He's 52.

At age 49 he was ranked #4 in the world.
12.10.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Correction: Kenny is 53 now.
12.10.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
The Mechanic is actually my favorite player in Europe - for his game, attitude and sense of style. Maybe my favorite anywhere. Don't know how my post got mistaken for disrespect for the Most Interesting Man in Golf.

All I'm saying is basically "hey, there are a few guys in the U.S. who're similar in age and skill to The Mechanic, I bet one of them could do an "old guy" version of what Uihlein and Koepka did this year - take a European route to the winner's circle."

It's just a fun idea to kick around.
I hear you Chuck and I agree.

it'll never happen though, none of them travel that much. Understandable, I guess. As other posters have said, the European tour is worldwide.
12.10.2013 | Unregistered CommenterEasingwold
Hong Kong Open awarded 20 OWGR points...same as web.com finale. Not much incentive there.

Speaking of "Euro Tour"....is a new name in order?

First two columns are week/country...numbers that follow are the week the Tour returns to that country (2013 sched):

1 South Africa 2 3 7 8 9
4 Abu Dhabi
5 Qatar
6 Dubai 38
10 India (cancelled 2014)
11 Maylasia
12 Morrocco
13 Spain (at one time had 4 events if I remember correctly)
14 South Korea
15 China
16 Bulgaria
17 Portugal 33
18 England
19 Sweden
20 Austria
21 France 24
22 Germany
23 Ireland
25 Scotland 27 32
26 Russia
28 Wales
29 Switzerland
30 Netherlands
31 Italy
34 Australia
35 China 36
37 Turkey
12.10.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
(apologies if this posts twice)

The Hong Kong Open awards 20 OWGR points to the winner....same as the web.com finale -- not much incentive there.

Is a new name in order for the "Euro Tour"?

First two columns are week/country...numbers that follow are the week the Tour returns to that country (2013 sched):

1 South Africa 2 3 7 8 9
4 Abu Dhabi
5 Qatar
6 Dubai 38
10 India (cancelled 2014)
11 Maylasia
12 Morrocco
13 Spain (at one time had 4 events if I remember correctly)
14 South Korea
15 China
16 Bulgaria
17 Portugal 33
18 England
19 Sweden
20 Austria
21 France 24
22 Germany
23 Ireland
25 Scotland 27 32
26 Russia
28 Wales
29 Switzerland
30 Netherlands
31 Italy
34 Australia
35 China 36
37 Turkey
12.10.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Hong Kong Open awarded 20 OWGR points to the winner....same as web.com finale -- not much incentive there.
12.10.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF

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