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Tuesday
Jan062015

Augusta Replaces Pine Valley Atop Golf Digest Top 100

Just a few quick reactions to the latest Golf Digest America’s 100 Greatest Golf Courses.

The list and accompanying package of images, sidesbars, etc...appears in the February, 2015 Golf Digest.

- Augusta National switches spots (again) with Pine Valley, though the plunge to second probably won’t be alarming enough for Pine Valley to initiate some much needed restoration work. Nor does a move to No. 1 do anything to inspire much needed restoration work at Augusta National. First world sigh.

- National Golf Links finally lands in the top 10 at No. 8, no doubt helped by hosting the Walker Cup and the magnificence of the design. Top 2 with a restored Pine Valley is where it should ultimately land, in an ideal world.

- Oak Hill actually moved up from 17th to 16th. Is it even the 16th best design in the state of New York? Great club, but architecturally it has no business anywhere near the top 75.

- The Country Club moves from 24th to 19th, a nice nod to the club restoring features under Gil Hanse’s supervision and hosting the U.S. Amateur.

- Friar’s Head moves to 23rd from 28th while Sand Hills drops out of the top 10. With the continued effort to improve Friar’s Head by overseer Ken Bakst, this may ultimately turn out to be Coore and Crenshaw’s most complete design.

- Los Angeles Country Club moves to 26th from 41st, the biggest jump by a classic course that I could detect.

- The Alotian Club begins the descent from the ridiculous 15th to a still-inflated 27th.

- Pinehurst No. 2 vaults to 28th from 40th. Better, but still should never even be mentioned in the same breath as a place like The Alotian Club, much less sitting behind it on a list. That's like putting Caddyshack behind The Greatest Game Ever Played.

- Erin Hills debuts at No. 42. The course had been ineligible for consideration until 2013 due to Architecture Editor Ron Whitten’s involvement. The course hosts the 2017 U.S. Open.

- Seth Raynor and Charles Banks’ Camargo Club joins the list at No. 52, fueled by a Tom Doak restoration.

- Somerset Hills, my favorite A.W. Tillinghast design by about ten lengths, moves from 95th to 73rd. Still not good enough, but I’m sure the late, great Frank Hannigan would be concerned to see the Golf Digest panel gradually coming to its senses.

- The Valley Club of Montecito is back! 112th to 83rd. I’m not sure what happened but one of the most enjoyable courses on the planet should have a spot on such a list, right?

- Streamsong’s Red course cracks the list, as does Shoreacres in the final two spots. The omission of Shoreacres was always on the list of reasons to not take the ranking seriously!

Overall there appears to be a little more recognition of fun and whimsical design, and even more acknowledgement of restored features. There appear to be still too many courses recognized because they are difficult or provide a lavish experience. That said, I see mostly huge positives thanks to the upward trajectory of long overlooked courses and those with genuine architectural interest.

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Having two of the most exclusive courses on the planet as one and two is a bit of a farce, isn't it? Who voted for them? I'm guessing some very important people, but there must be a fairly small number of them. Wouldn't their rating be just a tad skewed? Of course, Augusta is seen by millions, but I believe I have only seen Pine Valley in an episode of Shell's Wonderful World.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterBDF
They forgot to list Myopia Hunt Club. This must be a mistake, because there is not a golfer anywhere who would not have it in the top 50
01.6.2015 | Unregistered Commenterpeter
How dare you! 'Caddyshack' is infinitely better than 'The Greatest Game Ever Played', But to each his own I guess.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterBigsy
Agree re Oak Hill- pretty average course- but stunningly well maintained.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterChico
The Digest list is always a funny affair.

How Shoreacres is behind a few of the uninspiring courses on the list is a mystery to me.
Who could visit and not fall in love?
IMHO - Doak's best restoration to date.

Winged Foot East(WFE) getting a big boost as well.
To me - WFE has a lot of fans, but that vote with Seminole, WFW and Baltusrol show the East coast skew on the Digest voting panel.

The exclusions are always interesting.
Cal club to me in the best among the San Francisco trio but not on the Digest list.

Kingsley Club is another MIA that is curious
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterBlue Canyon
What restoration work is needed at Augusta National?

What restoration work is needed at Pine Valley?
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterAndrew S
How did Ron Whitten resolve his conflict of interest to get Erin Hills included in the rankings? Didn't he accept the job under those explicit conditions? What changed (other than the golf course, a few times)?
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterJC
Agree 100% with the comment about Myopia Hunt.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterMike U
Hudson National but no Sleepy Hollow? You gotta be kidding me.

No Yale? Really?

Victoria National ahead of Yeaman's Hall, Somerset Hills and Kittansett. Wow.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterJP Blain
No way National Golf Links belongs at Number 2, Geoff. I played there last summer and hit about 4-5 true irons shots all round. That place is a pitch and putt, even from the tips. Great design, just no longer relevant in today's game.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterGolfBoy
All you need to know in order to give the list its true measure of insignificance is the name of the club at No. 1. Ridiculous.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered Commenterrgw
No Chambers Bay?
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterPG
Golf Digest's list has been historically weaker than GOLF's list, and this pattern continues. Perhaps due to the number of alleged glad-handing panelists who -shocking - receive club-logo'd swag? The seven categories which are used to judge course worthiness are suspect, too., as is the point system.
Golf Week - with its traditional and modern lists may be the best of the bunch.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterDubious
Ahhh...Somerset...crazy crazy track. 2 totally different 9's and potentially the most fun course I have ever been on.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterKen H from NY
The only thing more surprising than the fact they make these lists, is that people actually pay attention to them. Id rather see a list of the best halfway house hotdogs or sandwiches. Anything to be talked about for 5 minutes I guess.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
I've long felt GD's list is more about significance and 'buzz' than quality. It all hinges around your definition of 'Greatness' of course. The rankings are certainly not a measure of how enjoyable a course is. There's a place for that I suppose, but it's not very useful or interesting. That ANGC is No. 1 says it all really. It's a special place of course, but I think it should actually drop a few places each year as the holes become less and less what they should be. And if there is a trend toward fun and whimsical design (though I'm not sure I can detect that Geoff), then it surely won't be long before Gamble Sands is up there.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterSamad
Yeamans Hall comes from nowhere to 64, very nice move for a great old course.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterConvert
Agree with Ken H. Of course, Somerset Hills is the only course on this list I have played, or am likely to play. Made birdie on the 18th to get even on the bet, too ;-)
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
Does Myopia allow rater access? They may just not give a flying ****.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterTighthead
Hi Geoff,

Love your thoughts on the list. Would Philly cricket's restored Wissahickon course crack your own top 100?
01.6.2015 | Unregistered Commenterpdk
The flopping of PV and ANGC in recent years is silly. Could make case for Augusta before the Fazio re-do but not now.

More curious how they justify including a Whitten co-design now?? Thought the ban permanent as long as Whitten on masthead
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterMedia driven
I have always thought these course ratings to be a bit of mental masturbation, insofar as most people can't play the courses since they are private. I always thought the best public courses list was a bit ridiculous as well, since most people still can't play them because they are so expensive, i.e., Pasatiempo is $200 a round. I have always wanted to see the best courses list for the regular person (average Detroiter) like me--those that can only afford $50 or less a round. Now, that list would be a great help to me . . .
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterSmitty
I'm pretty sure I know what you'd do at Augusta National, but I'm curious about what you'd change at Pine Valley. Based on pictures I've seen, is it safe to assume that your updates would involve a whole lotta chainsaws? Maybe give it the full Oakmont treatment? That would actually be pretty amazing.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered Commenterdsl
Andrew S,

Augusta needs to undo its tree planting barrage and get the width back.

Pine Valley would be further strengthened by a massive tree removal program. If done correctly, the course would be #1 every year and it wouldn't be a contest.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterKJ
Oakland Hills in the top 20?? - OHCC Could be the most overrated and least fun golf courses on the list. Southern Hills right behind it.

Agree on Yale - it is amazing since its renovation. Short, but everything you could want in a classic shot value course.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterFG-17
"That's like putting Caddyshack behind The Greatest Game Ever Played."

Nice. It's actually like putting Caddyshack behind anything (except Godfather I & II and GoodFellas).

" Id rather see a list of the best halfway house hotdogs or sandwiches"

I haven't been there in a long time but the hot dogs at Sleepy Hollow, back in the day, were incredible. The lady at the halfway house would grill the buns perfectly. We used to play in a junior golf league and played against SH and our team always looked so forward to those hot dogs.


"The only thing more surprising than the fact they make these lists, is that people actually pay attention to them."

Relax PA, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some of the greatest courses I've played are not on this list because they could care less about the list. I know guys who get paid pretty good money to get their clients on these lists. By the way, I like seeing the top 10, but after that, maybe just list them as the rest of the top 100. Can you really differentiate between the 56th and 86th (just an example-I don't know which courses occupy those spots)?
01.6.2015 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
I've enjoyed this site for quite a while and have only posted
once before now. My question is: What constitutes a good/great course?
I've been playing since the 70's, mostly in Florida, never at any of the storied courses
referenced in comments. I know what I like; conditioning, visuals and a lack
of mean spirited trickery. Harv, Chico, Carl, Abu, et al, you seem knowledgeable. I'd
I would really enjoy reading your thoughts. Geoff too, if so inclined.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterSpaulding
Amen Crooner and Louis Friend, If my count is correct there are 16 courses that are part of the MGA (Louis's criteria). 3 in the Philly area. Sorry guys.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterSal Bonpensiero
I'm embarrassed for caring.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterDon
GD has Oak Hill at #16?! Mind-boggling. And you're right Geoff, it's not even the sixteenth best course IN THE STATE.

And Castle Pines at #40? I'd put it in at #240....maybe.

Plainfield and SHCC at #72 and #73? Jeez.

If GD raters are anything like the guys I play golf with then they like eye candy, goofy Jim Engh fake framing mounds, waterfalls, and access....and are absolutely clueless.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered Commenterredneck
@Don, there's a support group for that. For now, just think of the most enjoyable rounds of your life and realize that some (many/most) of those rounds were probably played on rather ordinary courses.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterCarl Peterson
Donald Trump wants to know if the Pinehurst ranking is the "burned out horrible looking" Pinehurst or the fully watered lush green Pinehurst??
01.6.2015 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
I'll admit that I don't know much about the course but the thing that struck me when reading the list was Muirfield Village at 14. Is it really deserving of that spot above courses like Pacific Dunes, Riviera, Friar's Head, Pinehurst 2? I'd always assumed that it was a pretty standard PGA Tour course....
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterRob
Have played Oak Hill more than enough to know that it's a top 50 course now but would be better without about 8 or 9 beautiful oak trees that would never be chopped because they were planted by Dr. Williams. Only under cover of darkness while the members sleep. To date, I still don't know how Oakmont was able to pull off what they did 10 years ago.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Simmz
Harv +1 re: Trump and Pinehurst #2 LOL

+1 Rob on the Muirfield Village at 14 Are you kidding me? Muirfield Village is not the 2nd best course in Columbus!

+1 No Yale?! Again, Muirfield Village and no Yale? GMAB

@ Don +1 me too!

These lists are subjective and raters wanting to be PC.....I would like the architects top 100 list better. Can't vote for your own, or anyone that worked with / for you. And you can't vote for a course if you have not played it.
Harv +1 re: Trump and Pinehurst #2 LOL

+1 Rob on the Muirfield Village at 14 Are you kidding me? Muirfield Village is not the 2nd best course in Columbus!

+1 No Yale?! Again, Muirfield Village and no Yale? GMAB

@ Don +1 me too!

These lists are subjective and raters wanting to be PC.....I would like the architects top 100 list better. Can't vote for your own, or anyone that worked with / for you. And you can't vote for a course if you have not played it.
I've played 4 of the top 10, and walked another 3. But the best, most fun golf course that I have played is Taconic in Williamstown, MA. And some say that it isn't even the best Wayne Stiles course.

Wayne Stiles? Who is he? Maybe the best golf course designer of which no one has ever heard.

OK, I'm biased, but fun is fun.

And while we're at it, the Old Course rules!
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterGreg V
Good point on Oak Hill. Having walked it during major events there, I wouldn't give a rat's ass to play it. The West Course is probably better.

Monroe Golf Club is the best course in Rochester, for my money.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterGreg V
@ Greg V - some of us know who Wayne Stiles is. come up to Vermont and New Hampshire where there are a number of Stiles designs, almost all open to the public. just wait a few months if you want to tee it up ;-)

Re: MVGC: I covered a half-dozen Memorials back in the 80's as well as the '87 Ryder Cup - to me it is is a cut above a typical tour course, but probably not top 20 in country. as other posters have mentioned it may well not even be one of the best 2 courses in the Columbus area. but surely Jack's name and design business clout exert some influence - overt or covert.
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterTed Ray's Pipe
Ol Harv: I agree with you that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and that people get too worked up about this stuff. It reminds me of a line from George Carlin — 'Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?' I am curious about this line in your post "I know guys who get paid pretty good money to get their clients on these lists." That's a pretty strong statement. How do the guys you know accomplish that?
01.6.2015 | Unregistered CommenterKevin

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